Unwarranted Black E-mail

[deadjester]

It appears that this breach of security WAS NOT caused by Seraph or Redderin, nor did they apparently send the email.

It would appear that someone is attempting to cause drama between the boards. Tis sad as some people accused others of invading their privacy. And with no sincere apologies coming from the ones who made the accusations the drama will continue.

[JaNell]

An update on the email situation:

It appears that the email address list used came at least in part from a breach of security of the database used for the old forum - the current forum software is not affected, and I believe can still be considered relatively secure.

I have taken the old forum offline until I can convert it to a more secure static html format that can be used for reference, but cannot have security breached.

It appears that this breach of security WAS NOT caused by Seraph or Redderin, nor did they apparently send the email.

I apologize for the breach of your trust, and I will take any steps I can to prevent it from happening again.

So no idea who "orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com" is?

[darkvader]

It appears that this breach of security WAS NOT caused by Seraph or Redderin, nor did they apparently send the email.

It would appear that someone is attempting to cause drama between the boards. Tis sad as some people accused others of invading their privacy. And with no sincere apologies coming from the ones who made the accusations the drama will continue.

There was an invasion of privacy - I just don't believe at this time that Redderin or Seraph are responsible.

[darkvader]

An update on the email situation:

It appears that the email address list used came at least in part from a breach of security of the database used for the old forum - the current forum software is not affected, and I believe can still be considered relatively secure.

I have taken the old forum offline until I can convert it to a more secure static html format that can be used for reference, but cannot have security breached.

It appears that this breach of security WAS NOT caused by Seraph or Redderin, nor did they apparently send the email.

I apologize for the breach of your trust, and I will take any steps I can to prevent it from happening again.

So no idea who "orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com" is?

The email was not sent by orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com. It was a forged from: header.

[Hardcoregirl]

There was an invasion of privacy - I just don't believe at this time that Redderin or Seraph are responsible.

I believe the best course of action at this point is for everyone to move on with their lives. I'm sure if anything can be found out about it, it will be found out. I checked an old email today and I had received the mail, but it didn't bother me. I didn't even think that mail had ever been associated with KG, but I suppose it was somehow.

Hopefully nothing like this will occur again, and whomever did it will not feel the need to do it again.

Now, go huggle someone...lol.

[pryjmaty]

LadyIvanna promptly "huggles" Buttercup

Heh heh heh...just had to, ya know!

[JaNell]

So no idea who "orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com" is?

The email was not sent by orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com. It was a forged from: header.

What kind of idiot would want all of us AND Seraph and Redderin pissed at them?

[pryjmaty]

So no idea who "orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com" is?

The email was not sent by orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com. It was a forged from: header.

What kind of idiot would want all of us AND Seraph and Redderin pissed at them?

Someone that doesn't give a flying fuck and is laughing at every damn one of us.

I don't give a flying fuck, but I'm too puter stupid to do anything nifty.

[junkie christ]

So no idea who "orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com" is?

The email was not sent by orlok@the private forum which may not be named.com. It was a forged from: header.

What kind of idiot would want all of us AND Seraph and Redderin pissed at them?

Someone that doesn't give a flying fuck and is laughing at every damn one of us.

I don't give a flying fuck, but I'm too puter stupid to do anything nifty.

i know a few that would and could do it.
i got some ideas forming on this.
that is all
p.s.: ive heard nothing so dont ask.

[JaNell]

i know a few that would and could do it.
i got some ideas forming on this.
that is all
p.s.: ive heard nothing so dont ask.

Ditto here.
Ditto also on NOT being able to pull that off. Of course I've never really had a desire to hack - or be tracked down by a drama of pissed off sadistic Goths...


Don't get me started on why I consider virus building and hacking (the bad kind) a class war issue.

[ophelia]

Personally, if people thought that I had invaded theor privacy, and had used underhanded means to procure their email addresses, and I was innocent, I would immediately say, "I did not do that!"

The parties in question (ReddErin and Seraph) have not denied doing this, nor have they showed any cocern that someone is using Orlok as a cover. They have both been active members of this forum until now, but suddenly they are silent. They haven't even answered private messages with a "Yes, we did it" or "No, and we're sorry that this occurred."

Sorry, but silence is often taken as an admission of guilt. They have fought tooth and nail over their forum, and their club night. Why would the not defend against a "wrongful" accusation?

[pryjmaty]

*sigh*

[Hardcoregirl]

Sorry, but silence is often taken as an admission of guilt. They have fought tooth and nail over their forum, and their club night. Why would the not defend against a "wrongful" accusation?

I would assume that's because no matter what they or any other member of the private forum which may not be named has said, you all are going to come to your own conclusions and believe what you want to believe. Some have made it a war in their heads and have made the private forum which may not be named out to be the only true evil since Hitler.

BTW, you and Chris looked adorable dancing last night!

[ophelia]

I would assume that's because no matter what they or any other member of the private forum which may not be named has said, you all are going to come to your own conclusions and believe what you want to believe. Some have made it a war in their heads and have made the private forum which may not be named out to be the only true evil since Hitler.

BTW, you and Chris looked adorable dancing last night!

I don't know. I understand your point. But why are you the spokesperson? People have formed an opinion in their heads, but that is because they aren't being offered an alternative or an apology.

I haven't even seen a "thank you for supporting our first night" or "it was nice to see you all there." There was a huge effort to get people to go, but no comment afterwards.

Thanks for the compliment. We were just being silly.

And BTW, you guys started the Hitler thing. "Heil Orlok!"

[Hardcoregirl]

I don't know. I understand your point. But why are you the spokesperson? People have formed an opinion in their heads, but that is because they aren't being offered an alternative or an apology.

Thanks for the compliment. We were just being silly.

And BTW, you guys started the Hitler thing. "Heil Orlok!"

I meant forming opinions on the whole new board, what it's goals are, etc, and also on who sent the email. But, there has been no discussion on the private forum which may not be named about it either, so I don't know what happened. I suppose people won't apologize for something they didn't do. My guess is someone who wanted people to know about the venue change did it on their own accord without consulting Erin or Tony...so they aren't gonna apologize for something they didn't do.

I'm not the spokesperson, just a member who has some opinions I'm too happy to share...lol.

And the "heil Orlok" simply comes from the movie having that whole german/eastern european flava I believe...

We, at the private forum which may not be named like our Jews just fine . We've even got some jewish members.

[pryjmaty]

We, at the private forum which may not be named like our Jews just fine . We've even got some jewish members.

L'Chaim!!!!

[junkie christ]

this is very important:






















gotcha.
snoochie boochies.......
that is all.

[ReddErin]

Personally, if people thought that I had invaded...

Hm...where to start?

Thursday evening we found out that our venue was shut down by the Fire Marshal. As we walked out of the building, after talking to one of the owners about any possibilities of having it at one of their other locations, Tony's phone rang. He was told that one of his best friends, Randy, whom he had known since the 8th grade, had suddenly died. We secured a new venue within hours and went to work reorganizing and getting the word out. That was Thursday.

Friday we spent most of the day running errands -- most of which were necessary because of the last minute venue change (redoing flyers, etc.). We met with the owners and managers of the Electirc Ballroom, along with a few of the DJs, and got everything ironed out there. That evening there was a gathering of Randy's friends to attend. I left that for a bit to go by 11th St. to let anyone know, who didn't already, about the venue change and to talk to one of my helpers, Morgan. The gathering lasted until around two in the morning. </Friday>

Saturday - up at 8 AM for more errand running, during which we were trapped in West Knoxville for a short time because of the storm. On to the Electric Ballroom at 6 PM, Tony leaving then for the visitation. The show went on. Home again, home again, jiggity jog at 530 the next morning.

Sunday - slept until the afternoon, waking to the toilet flooding the bathroom and half of the living room. Tony, from stress and bad food, was throwing up most of the day. We just went to get something to eat. We come home, we sit down, we read this bullshit.

Here it is Monday morning. I'm going to bed soon. We managed to get on the internet in the last couple of days just enough to put up revised directions to the venue and other such updates.

Any more questions? Get on with it. Surely there's something else to see. No, I didn't send the emails. Neither did Tony. Jonathan didn't send them either. I'm pretty sure your granny didn't do it, but hey, stranger things have happened. Why haven't we responded to emails? We have been a bit busy trying to save the night so that you would all (rather, most of you) have the Ball to attend, as close to as-promised as we could pull off with such little notice.

I'm tired. So, hey, fuck off. Good night.

[junkie christ]

my two cents again:
you and tony went way beyond the call of duty over saturday night, we all had a blast, you guys fucking rock.
well wishes to well deserved sleep.

[karlaBOO]

I haven't even seen a "thank you for supporting our first night" or "it was nice to see you all there." There was a huge effort to get people to go, but no comment afterwards.

I have intended to post my Thank Yous,but honestly am still to tired, cause I have a lonnnnnnnng list. And, well I'm too old for this staying out all night crap. The old bones apparently can't take it.

My Thank Yous are still going to have to wait until I get off of work this afternoon.