MORE PROOF OF GLOBAL WARMING

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What will be done about global warming?

Will the upcoming ice age and global warming cancel each other? Is that more likely than the politicians doing something about the problem?
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What if nothing is done and the ice age and global warming don't cancel each other out?
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Total votes: 5

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Last week, for the first time in ten years, I took the long drive from Memphis to my hometown of Lewisburg in the mountains of West Virginia. Being in the Allegheny Plateau, summers there are cool. I found out they used to be cool. When I left in '89, 85 in July was very hot, and 87 would probably be the hottest day of the year.
Then few homes there had air conditioning, and about only half the cars had it. Of the cars that did, many of them belonged to those who regularly traveled to far off hot lands, such as Florida.

Now...
summers days in the 90's are common and at least half have air conditioning.

Global warming? Duh, what else!
Do the politicians know? Yes. Will they admit it? Some will. Will Bush? Probably not. What will be done about it? If the present party stays in power, probably not much.
Will the upcoming ice age and global warming cancel each other? Probasbly not. But that is more likely than the politicians doing something about the problem...
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The butcher at Food City told me that the super hot weather could be attributed to the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens in the 80s. I don't know about his meteorlogical skills, but he makes one hell of a meatloaf.
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I'm having trouble making sense of this. The answers to your poll are questions... Especially the second choice, it doesn't seem to answer the poll at all. But for my opinion on the matter, I believe that humans will destroy everything with nuclear warfare way before global warming gets the frag count on earth. Which is why I support colonizing other planets as soon as possible. The universe is in theory infinite. The planet Earth is most definitely finite. The more planets we colonize. The better our survival possibilities are. Who is to say that if we fixed all the environmental issues with Earth that a meteor wouldn't crash into us a year later? I just feel that we shouldn't put all our eggs in one basket so to speak.
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You know, fuck global warming
i dont give a shit
im more worried about the republicans, terrorist, nuclear war, pollution, cancer, muggings, or anything else that could realsticly kill me.

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Uh oh, the republicans are out to kill me.

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The Earth has been, and will continue to take care of herself. If we mess her up enough, she'll just wipe us out..... simple as that.
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junkie christ wrote:You know, fuck global warming
i dont give a shit
im more worried about the republicans, terrorist, nuclear war, pollution, cancer, muggings, or anything else that could realsticly kill me.

when you a hug a tree, your arms are occupied and i can stab you in the kidney and rob you easier.



That was an incredibly stupid thing to say.
Hasn't it occured to you somehow that some of the aforementioned fears (pollution, cancer) that you listed are often connected to global warming?
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Post by ryng »

You’re poll seems a bit rhetoric. Was it meant to be?

Global warming seems like a red herring. I don’t know why we need a computer model to tell us that we’re damaging our atmosphere when all you have to do to tell that is step outside and take a deep breath.

The computer models that predict global warming suffer from that fact that they have a large number of independent variables that must be considered to achieve anything approaching accuracy and a very limited amount of computational power available to crunch them with. So many things must be dropped or estimated to make the models runnable and in such a complex system it is really hard to tell which fators will be important. That leaves a big door open for politicians and companies to write the models off as inaccurate.

If environmentalist wants to make a difference they should concentrate on the numerous easily measurable pollution factors like air and water quality.
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Post by Damia_Thorne »

Did y'all forget about me posting this a while back: http://www.bushflash.com/sp.html

Well, I would post my entire opinion about this...but it would probably take up 20 pages and then they'd have to close the thread if and when I pissed some people off.

So, I'll just write this:

Considering the fact that several family members and I are currently dealing with several different cancers we got directly from our polluted and contaminated environment-YES, I think there is global warming and it is or will affect us all during our lifetime.

and our president doesn't give a flying fuck whether we all die from it or not
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Hey--thanks for replying. Norse magic? i"m intrigued!!

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when i was living in costa rica, i actually studied global warming's effects on plants there. rises in sea surface temperatures since the 1970s are causing changes in the hydrological cycle, making the dry seasons drier. organisms that rely on ground level cloud mists to make it through the dry season (like frogs, and plants that grow on other plants) die. bad, bad stuff and no way for us to see that much can be done besides document it.
you can use malenkovich cycles and continental plate shifting to predict about 80% of the earth's temperature historically. but there are a lot of anomalies, and ice core evidence etc. shows a strong correlation between temperature and co2 rates.

now, raise your hand if you understood anything i just said.
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ryng wrote:If environmentalist wants to make a difference they should concentrate on the numerous easily measurable pollution factors like air and water quality.


a lot of companies make a lot of money doing that. i used to work at one here in knoxville. the thing is though that stuff like global warming or biodiversity loss are much more important on the long-term timescale. it's really hard to get people to care about a future they'll never see...
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naturegrrl wrote:
ryng wrote: it's really hard to get people to care about a future they'll never see...


One of the pitfalls of mortality.

Humans do have a short attention span and never seem to act on anything until the last minute.This is why I think that the media and environmentalist have put too many of their eggs in the Global-warming basket. The focus needs to be more evenly divided between the present and the future.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/03/17/60minutes/main1415985.shtml

Nice to know that the Bush administration is doing it's best to censor and rewrite global warming studies.
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Oddly enough, I remember summers being much hotter here when I was a child. It was very common to have days over 100F in late July early August. However, winters seemed a bit colder then as well. Go figure. Weather in east Tn is so tempermental we are in a bad place to gauge it!
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Post by necrosynthesis »

wow, that was a screwed up poll. I've noticed the average temp semming to get warmer consistantly in my lifetime. no doubt.

Never before in recorded history has there been so few trees and so much pollution on earth. One can theorize from here to hell and back, but the fact remains, we have no clue what we're messing with.
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Russo wrote:The butcher at Food City told me that the super hot weather could be attributed to the eruption of Mt. Saint Helens in the 80s. I don't know about his meteorlogical skills, but he makes one hell of a meatloaf.



Proven over and over a Volcanic eruption, will spew ash into the atmospere, and lover temps for 2 to 3 years by 2-5 degrees. If it's true a super volcano is going to erupt in Yellow stone Natioal park in the next 100 years and we will be in a abrupt ice age again. :-?
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I just wish the whole Bush administration would die trying to swim from one ice flow to another in search of food.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/03/26/coverstory/index.html
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Post by elasticwings »

Too funny, looks like Chevy got some real good submissions to their commercial contest.

http://news.com.com/1606-2_3-6056633.html?tag=cnetfd.sd
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