London under fire

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 12:33 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/sto ... 66,00.html

not even gonna comment......ppl hate me enuff as it is.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:08 pm

holy shit.

Mercurygriffin · Post by **Mercurygriffin** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:33 pm

And the world recoils in horror. The metro is one of the most imprtant parts of Europe. This will shut things down for about a week and CNN will be the most popular chanel again. This shit never ceases to disgust me. :fuckedup:

ophelia · Post by **ophelia** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:38 pm

This is horrific. I am so sad.

Synthpopalooza · Post by **Synthpopalooza** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:56 pm

This sucks.

You know, our 9/11 happened FOUR YEARS AGO and you'd think by now we'd have caught Osama and disrupted his terrorist network. But no, we're too busy jacking around in Iraq, looking for nonexistent weapons of mass destruction, cultivating a new breeding ground for terrorism where none existed before, raising generations of Iraqis that hate us ... when we should have stayed where we were and pursued Osama.

Now this happens. I really think the world is just a screwed up place. :roll:

Mercurygriffin · Post by **Mercurygriffin** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:57 pm

Synthpopalooza wrote:This sucks.

You know, our 9/11 happened FOUR YEARS AGO and you'd think by now we'd have caught Osama and disrupted his terrorist network. But no, we're too busy jacking around in Iraq, looking for nonexistent weapons of mass destruction, cultivating a new breeding ground for terrorism where none existed before, raising generations of Iraqis that hate us ... when we should have stayed where we were and pursued Osama.

Now this happens. I really think the world is just a screwed up place.

Agreed!

A Tear for London.

Zeo · Post by **Zeo** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 2:58 pm

I would say something here, but the majority of you probably wouldn't understand or agree.

All I can say is this is terrible. This is another example or an attack specifically designed to target civilians and to inflict fear. This can happen anywhere.

Scorptrio · Post by **Scorptrio** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:23 pm

37 dead? big deal. 22,500 dead Iraqi civilians (unarmed, non-combatant, civilian casualties due to military action in Iraq.) No one has a right to be outraged about less than 40 dead, or even the less than 2000 who died in 9/11, until the real mass murderers are brought to justice.

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:26 pm

HAHAHAHA...

The best part...Is everyone fell right in...

G8 Summit was schedueled to start today...But guess where Blair is...London..."Well...OK...I guess we won't be helping out those kids in Ethiopia...See ya next time, George..."

Wow...Maybe, we've missed the point that this is 'Terrorism'...It is made to cause 'terror'...& everyone falls for it...Everytime...I remember yesterday...I was listening to music on the radio...Today...I get to hear about London all day...Really...I could care less...I agree with the idealology...Just not the method...They're right...We're wrong...Get over it...My ONLY complaint...Is that they have to kill innocent people to do it...But, sometimes, you gotta break a few eggs...So be it...Amen...

ophelia · Post by **ophelia** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:32 pm

Scorptrio wrote: No one has a right to be outraged about less than 40 dead

Going to have to call bullshit on that statement. I do understand what you are saying about civilian casualties in Iraq, but all life is precious, and the horror is in the intention... in the perversity of random mass killing.

They only killed 37+ people? Thank God. Thank God they were not as successful as they hoped.

So it should have been bigger, bloodier, then, before we are outraged?

Russo · Post by **Russo** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:33 pm

Scorptrio wrote:37 dead? big deal. 22,500 dead Iraqi civilians (unarmed, non-combatant, civilian casualties due to military action in Iraq.) No one has a right to be outraged about less than 40 dead, or even the less than 2000 who died in 9/11, until the real mass murderers are brought to justice.

I urge you to send your statement to the grieving families in London. "No one has a right to be outraged about less than 40 dead." Bullshit. They have every right. Their mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, and children are DEAD by no fault of their own. That sounds like a good reason for outrage to me. And when your child is killed in a terrorist action, I'll be there to remind you, "You have no right to be outraged."

4X541N7 · Post by **4X541N7** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:47 pm

Scorptrio wrote:37 dead? big deal. 22,500 dead Iraqi civilians (unarmed, non-combatant, civilian casualties due to military action in Iraq.) No one has a right to be outraged about less than 40 dead, or even the less than 2000 who died in 9/11, until the real mass murderers are brought to justice.

While, I don't think this is the way I would have phrased it...

Completely agree...

I think the point is...(IF I may Scorp...)...That how can we get so pissy about 37+ people dead...400orsomething wounded...When the U.S., Britian, etc...Are killing in the thousands...What makes these people's lives so much more important, than the people that we are claiming to be 'freeing'...Because we live in properious nations...BULLSHIT!!!

Scorptrio · Post by **Scorptrio** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 4:51 pm

What about the families of the over 22,500 dead in Iraq? we are talking about women, children - dead in their beds from "stray bombs"

Hundreds of children died last night in the United States of starvation. Where is the post about that? Where is the world outrage over those dead babies?

And yes, someday my son will die, and nothing I or anyone can do will stop that. Moral outrage over 37 dead when hundreds died in this country of hunger on the same day? Hypocrisy.

What they are saying is, if you are killed in a bomb, that is horrible, but if we let you starve to death, that's perfectly OK. How many people died of starvation in the UK today? Why isn't that posted about?

Russo · Post by **Russo** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:12 pm

Just because worse things are going on in the world does not mean these deaths are trivial and not worth grieving over.

Scorptrio · Post by **Scorptrio** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:15 pm

Where do you draw the line? Either be outraged about every murder (including the starvation of children) or stop making a big deal about a few dozen dead. It is shear hypocrisy to wail and moan and cry "outrage" about a few dozen dead when hundreds die elsewhere and go unnoticed.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 5:16 pm

white america has it easier on our worst day than 99% of the world on their best day..
the UK is in that boat with us

its easy for some average joe schmo from the south to sit around talking shit but im willing to bet if i pulled a gun on you today youd fucking cry.
and if i shot you, and you died, what about your kids/parents/loved ones?
because i didnt shoot a quota you want me to remind them not to mourn?

this attack was aimed to be a massacre.
its fucking pure luck only that few died, but with that many hundered injured, someones gonna die today from wounds.
when that number tops 40 feel the jackassity of your statement.

and for 4x5's statement, well you got good and bad points.
lemme quote out that really good point.

G8 Summit was schedueled to start today...But guess where Blair is...London..."Well...OK...I guess we won't be helping out those kids in Ethiopia...See ya next time, George..."

now someone think about that shit and tell me that governments (i didnt say who) dont fund this shit? they have the most to gain. not ahmed and his minimum wage jyhad.
people dont get up in arms over the deaths in iraq because of its just not popluar opinion and the media distorts it.

Stalin wrote:the death of one is a tragedy, the death of millions is a statistic

its not the amount that dies, its that they die
but we are no better than the terrorist in the end.
weve funded them
weve armed them
and theres alot of dead civilians in iraq.
we are all hypocrites and bastards who will never understand.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:33 pm

Scorptrio wrote:Hundreds of children died last night in the United States of starvation. Where is the post about that? Where is the world outrage over those dead babies?

I've watched, and read a lot of reports about this incident. And about nine eleven. The latter I saw live. The reports never amount to flippity shit, of course.

But I have seen and heard a lot of ranting about children, in both instances.

How old, or young, does a person have to be to deserve being mourned? How old or young does a person have to be to cause outrage when they die?

Is there some magical age when a person is suddenly worth less, or more? Is there a specific time, in seconds or even miliseconds, that a person's life gains or loses worth?

I think not. Dead is dead. Waste is waste. Next, people will be arguing whether an individual death can be considered a tragedy based on the physical beauty of said person. Horse. Fucking. Shit.

Frankly said, that's as gay as Tom Cruise.

Way to go, Top Gun. Way to go.

pryjmaty · Post by **pryjmaty** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:48 pm

iblis wrote:
How old, or young, does a person have to be to deserve being mourned? How old or young does a person have to be to cause outrage when they die?

Is there some magical age when a person is suddenly worth less, or more? Is there a specific time, in seconds or even miliseconds, that a person's life gains or loses worth?

I think not. Dead is dead. Waste is waste. Next, people will be arguing whether an individual death can be considered a tragedy based on the physical beauty of said person. .

Bravo!!!!

Mercurygriffin · Post by **Mercurygriffin** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 8:57 pm

True, one death is bad. Also true, more than one is worse. It doesn't matter if it is by bomb, gun, knife, or starvation. You can't get around it. As long as there are humans there will be one of them willing to take anothers life. As long as there are humans someone will get picked last or left behind all together. Maybe one day we will just blow everything up and solve the problem once and for all.

pryjmaty · Post by **pryjmaty** » Thu Jul 07, 2005 9:48 pm

As long as people die, i will be in business.

:D i don't care how bad that sounds/reads.......i'm out for me and mine.

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