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Honesty
Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 5:18 pm
by Tabris
Is honesty over rated? Do you feel that honesty is best in all aspects and occasions of life?

Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 5:36 pm
by Imp
There is a difference between honesty and flaunting that which could be painful to another. Lies tend to be a waste of time and effort, but not everything needs to be said all the time. My two cents.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 5:56 pm
by Nemesis
Ask and Ye shall receive... Painful or not.. what the fuck do I care? after all... you wanted honesty... 
Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 10:00 pm
by QueenOfTheFlock
I believe honesty is best. I mean, if it's something that will cause pain to someone, they have the right to know the truth from you. If it's something that's trivial, they shouldn't be all that upset anyway. It's just bad to live under false pretenses. I've done it before. Learned lessons the hard way.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2003 11:25 pm
by Imp
QueenOfTheFlock wrote:I believe honesty is best. I mean, if it's something that will cause pain to someone, they have the right to know the truth from you. If it's something that's trivial, they shouldn't be all that upset anyway. It's just bad to live under false pretenses. I've done it before. Learned lessons the hard way.
I did not mean to live under false pretenses, just that there is a difference between truth and flaunting, a difference that is often ignored. If something should be told, then by all means tell it- but don't rub their nose in it if it hurts them. Say it once and leave it alone.
Unless, of course, the subject is Christmas or birthday presents. Then you are justified in lying your ass off to keep it a secret.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 12:31 am
by pryjmaty
everything that comes out of my mouth is a lie.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:37 am
by Nemesis
LadyIvanna wrote:everything that comes out of my mouth is a lie.
Including this statement... 
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:45 am
by pryjmaty
LOL!!!...I HATE when ppl figure me out...but then, guess I am an open book.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:50 am
by Nemesis
LadyIvanna wrote:LOL!!!...I HATE when ppl figure me out...but then, guess I am an open book.
Sometimes it's so easy... I'm almost ashamed...
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:53 am
by pryjmaty
Nem....

Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 1:54 am
by Nemesis
LadyIvanna wrote:Nem....

I LOVE you too....
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 5:49 am
by QueenOfTheFlock
Imp wrote:QueenOfTheFlock wrote:I believe honesty is best. I mean, if it's something that will cause pain to someone, they have the right to know the truth from you. If it's something that's trivial, they shouldn't be all that upset anyway. It's just bad to live under false pretenses. I've done it before. Learned lessons the hard way.
I did not mean to live under false pretenses, just that there is a difference between truth and flaunting, a difference that is often ignored. If something should be told, then by all means tell it- but don't rub their nose in it if it hurts them. Say it once and leave it alone.
Unless, of course, the subject is Christmas or birthday presents. Then you are justified in lying your ass off to keep it a secret.
Oh no, I completely agree with what you said. I was just throwing my opinion into the mix on the whole situation. I have just been burned by other people's lies in the past that I have gotten to a point where I only want to hear the truth. It's nice to have someone be open and honest with you.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 7:40 am
by celticsmith
Just to interject, being a person to strives for brutal honesty.
As far as the x-mas presents go, you don't have to lie about them. Any lie is a conscious decision to deceive. You could always answer questions about x-mas presents with "You don't really want to know....do you?"
There are more than enough ways to mislead without resorting to lying.
"Mommy? Am I going to die?"
"Yes dear.....just not right now."
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 8:14 am
by QueenOfTheFlock
When it comes to gifts, I always just say "I'm not telling you!". Gives me a sense of power...or something. Maybe I'm just mean.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 4:47 pm
by The Stormstress
The truth is more than most can handle!
Posted: Thu May 08, 2003 6:59 pm
by BearDragonLady
depends on the person
Posted: Fri May 09, 2003 12:20 pm
by briarus
depends on what the truth will do.
will it help the person you're telling it to?
or will it just help you feel better and hurt the one you're telling?