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http://www.iuniverse.com

I worked there about a year ago when the economy tanked so did my job lol. I had a good experience there as an employee, if any body has any questions about them. I would be happy to try and answer them.

There are a couple of knoxville authors that have published with iuniverse.

Spite Hall: by Jack Mauro

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0%2D595%2D19322%2D6

Silver screen Desire: by Lori Craig

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0%2D595%2D22408%2D3

Also Bicycling Tennessee by Owen Proctor

He's not in Tennessee any longer I don't think but the book is about TN

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0%2D595%2D21811%2D3

I also was able to help a lot of people self publish books, I worked directly with the most complicated projects, as I enjoy people with a great deal of character.

I got to help folks on mountains in India to one fellow that was in Chiapas Mexico. I even helped one fellow Reginald Lewis who is on death row to get a book published.

Inside my Head: by Reginald Lewis

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book_detail.asp?isbn=0%2D595%2D21920%2D9


Here are a couple of the books that I would recommend, and enjoyed reading.

A Passport To Hell: The Mystery of Richard Realf
by George W Rathmell

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book ... D21251%2D4

The Greyminster Chronicles
by Brian Hughes

Humorous Science Fiction

http://www.iuniverse.com/bookstore/book ... D22079%2D7

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Since iUniverse charges the author a fee to publish, it's what is known as a Vanity or Subsidy Press.

Self-publishing is entirely different, and respected in the publishing community. In self-publishing, the author has complete control over the book, arranges for or does the typesetting, layout, and printing themselves, has physical custody of every copy of the book, and is entirely responsible for distribution.

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Money goes TO the author.

There are Print-on-demand publishers out there that are legitimate and respected - but they don't charge you anything since they make their money when the book sells.
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No illusion here, Yep it is a vanity press, iUniverse would never say that,

however it's still the cheapest way to selfpublish a book with an Isbn and national distrubution that I am aware of.

All editing is done by the author, the design process is an automated xml process or cookie cutter and then the author gets a proof round or chance to make changes before the book is sent to press. The only way iUniverse does any editing is if they are paid to do so.

There are Print-on-demand publishers out there that are legitimate and respected - but they don't charge you anything since they make their money when the book sells.

I haven't heard of a pod that doesn't charge any set up money upfront which ones do that?? As I have a volume of poetry I would like to publish myself.
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The POD publishers I know of are for graphic novels - and they're publishers, which means that you have to submit to them, and you're rejected if they don't think the book will sell.

Legitimate publishers never charge you any fees - for your contributor copies or anything - and if you're wanting to be taken seriously as a writer, you'll never use a vanity press.

Self-publishing is OK, though. Ask our own now successful Keltora.
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I'm still curious how you define the differance between self publishing and using a vanity press?

Having access to typesetting and getting a large cache of books does not in my book make for a reasonalble differance.

With iuniverse you are getting ISBN and set up at Ingrams, and a web presence at Amazon, and Barnes and Noble websites. All things that you would most likely have to pay for by yourself if you self published, and you don't have a large cache of books to store which to me seems a plus.

I think that the lines have and are being blurred to the point that it is not a point of concern other than vanity.

I would like to hear Keltora's say on the differance between POD and selfpublishing, as she most likely has a broader perspective on this subject.
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I dunno, iUniverse and other flat-rate POD publishers (like Infinity Publishing) are actually being touted as a viable route to publication for writers in the classes I'm taking in creative writing this summer at Harvard, particularly as an alternative means of publication for ppl who write books that can't be easily genre-fied, reduced to sound-byte categorization, or which cater to niche markets.

Yes, you do pay a flat rate for them to load your book into the system and list it with Amazon and such, but you do have complete control over the fonts used, the layout, the cover images/graphics, and you do receive royalty checks on a rolling basis as the book sells. Several of these sorts of presses have co-promotion setups with big chains (iUniverse has a setup with B&N, i believe) for in-store displays of their better selling titles, which is a visibility you'd never get through "old-school small-batch self-publishing" methods.

And, a local major house (i want to say Houghton, maybe Little-Brown) has been in negotiations with some of the PODs about setting a "cap" for their better-selling authors--by that i mean that (as i understand it, this is me telling yall what i recall from class) if a title sells a certain amount of copies the major house will buy the rights from the POD and print the book in a traditional printing with traditional marketing and promotional support.

One of my professors (who has 5 books out through Houghton Mifflin) is doing his next book through iUniverse because he likes the idea of the amount of control they give him over the final product as opposed to his experiences with a major house. They aren't perceived as a "vanity press" in the literary community here, from what i can tell.

My $0.02, YMMV.
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Warning: sorta off topic

I find it kinda scary sometimes that any idiot can write a book and somehow get published...because, it seems a large percent of the populations thinks, "oh they got published, its a book, it must be true and unbiased!" I'm thinking of crap like "The Bell Curve" etc.

Being published certainly doesn't mean you are a good writer.
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I'm happy to hear that Ladybee, I realy like iUniverse after working there. They have worked hard to make it a viable service, and I was part of that for a couple of years.

Hello Buttercup

I understand your fear, but people do have to learn to think for themselves.

Working there I had some hilarious experiences with authors, I once had to call an author and let him know that he had left a letter to the current mental institution that he was in discussing his release in his book of poetry, and he might want to edit it out.
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Sonicgoo wrote:I understand your fear, but people do have to learn to think for themselves.


We are talking about the majority of the human race here arent we?
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yep Fallen I do think the majority of the human race should think for themselves lol
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Sonicgoo wrote:yep Fallen I do think the majority of the human race should think for themselves lol



And that my friend, is where you'd be wrong. Should and *do* think for themselves are far apart.

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I'M KIDDING!! But they should think for themselves a bit more.
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Coming Very Late Into This:

1) PoD is technology, and a number of publishers that do not charge fees (Wildside is the #1) use this technology to print books. In fact, a number of publishers are using the technology to print and warehouse real books because they find it less expensive than regular print technology.

2) Self-Publishing CHEAPENS your work. It will not be taken seriously, no matter what these people who offer services (iUniverse, iPublish, PublishAmerica, XLibris, etc.) claim. Bookstores RARELY put the books on their shelves, libraries REFUSE to purchase them, and authors of self-published books NEVER make up what they spent.

3) No author should believe they can self-edit their own work and it will look polished and professional. Editors serve a purpose, and it's not just to stonewall wannabe writers out of achieving their dream.

No Respectable Writer of Fiction Should EVER Self-Publish if they want to be taken seriously.

Now, that said, there are exceptions to self-publishing. Local history, memoirs, cookbooks, limited interest non-fiction. All these can be self-published and taken seriously.

Yog's Law states: Money Flows Towards The Writer. The Only Place a Writer signs a check is ON THE BACK.

So NEVER pay anyone to publish your book...period!

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Keltora, do you mean "subsidy publish" rather than "self-publish"?
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