Wedded Bliss

MahoganyDawn · Post by **MahoganyDawn** » Fri May 09, 2003 10:56 am

I was supposed to get married on the 10th of this month. But he left.. took my cat.. took my weaponry collection... took my life. Love is great isn't it. Best of luck to all of you... you may very well need it.

candicide · Post by **candicide** » Fri May 09, 2003 12:28 pm

littlepockit wrote:i understand and see your point of view, buttercup. your situation is different. i am 26, will be 27 when i get married. and i would not do this if i did not think it is what i wanted.

Exactly. I'm getting married at the end of this month. I've never been married, I've never wanted to be married...I've never even wanted children until now. I'm 26 years old...not 16. I've lived a lot of life, learned a lot about people, and wouldn't jump into something so serious as having a baby and getting married with this man unless I knew it was a good thing to do. I certainly don't know everything, but I'd like to think that I've been around the block enough times to trust my instincts when it comes to people and situations. It won't be perfect...no relationship, romantic or otherwise is. It takes a lot of learning, patience, compromise and sacrifice to make any union work. I'm very confident in both of our abilities to work on it together.

Congrats to all of the couples!

Celestial Dung · Post by **Celestial Dung** » Fri May 09, 2003 12:45 pm

Best wishes to everyone getting institutionalized.

IsisPanthea · Post by **IsisPanthea** » Sun May 11, 2003 11:25 am

So my previous posting has sparked debate, good wishes and snide comments alike. I've been married and divorced and back again but I refuse to let one loser asshole of a mate ruin my life and perception of love. If you let somebody do that to you, you've let them win. Yes, it sucks, but why let some POS have that kind of power over your life?! I was the one left behind and I REFUSE to wallow in self pity. So pick your sorry, whiny, unhappy-in -love asses up and live your lives! And don't go giving me any BS postings about how I don't get it blah, blah, blah. BS.
Believe. It CAN happen again. It's happening for me. I'm on # 2!

IsisPanthea · Post by **IsisPanthea** » Sun May 11, 2003 11:40 am

Buttercup wrote:I'm in agreement with Nem here.

Marriage should be illegalized.

In the rare cases that it works beautifully (Karla and Jason, Jay and Kasi, etc) its nice...but those cases are so few and far between.

Why are people in such a damn rush to get into a legal binding that is so frickin' hard to get out of? Especially when half of all marriages fail?

This whole fairytale wedding thing is just nauseating, I'm sorry. And it makes me sad when my friends think that getting married is gonna solve all the problems in a relationship. It NEVER does.

I don't know you two really, but um...I hope it works out for the best and neither of you gets screwed over.

Call me negative, call me pessimistic-I am.

Oh, and I am in a very lovely happy cheesey relationship, and I have been married before, and don't want to ever get married again....

I have to disgree with you. You're making generalized statements; not all people get married in order to solve relationship problems. Most of the time (and I know there are exceptions) people get married because they are in LOVE. Happy marriages are not as rare as you think. There are lots of them and as CelticSmith pointed out, there are times when it's hard. If the two people are committed to each other, there's not that much that can't be worked out, enjoyed, etc. My first husband just happened to be an immature twit, but my new man is just that: a man. But, marriage is not for everyone. Just like having kids is not for everyone. People need to make that decision for themselves and the naysayers should keep their pessimistic traps shut.[/i]

MahoganyDawn · Post by **MahoganyDawn** » Sun May 11, 2003 11:54 am

Ohh.. heaven forbid! Someone posted something on a gothic website and got responces with thoughts diffrent from their own... OHH NO!! I would have never seen that coming!

Sure congrats on being happy. Just don't go whining and bitching about people having negative ideas of love on a GOTHIC website. We have all been burned.. we have all been heartbroken. This is a public forum.. there is equal right to posting both positive ideas of love and negative ideas of love. You broght up the subject.. you should expect answers from both sides of the field.

Celestial Dung · Post by **Celestial Dung** » Sun May 11, 2003 12:04 pm

I'm anti-serious relationship and honestly I haven't been hurt.

My feelings about marriage are very specefic. I believe it to be a hoax. An oudated wealth aquistiion custom. All the love stuff didn't come into popular fashion until the nineteenth century. Before then it was primarily a means to build financial stability between famalies. Why society continues to allow the state to get involved in affairs of the heart is beyond me.

Views on romantic love (lust?) vary day to day honestly. On the one had I can't deny the desire to be someone but on the other hand....it seems irrational to only want to be romantically involved with one person at one time. I mean there are millions of people out there to limit yourself to just one person seems a bit odd.

"why each of us must choose
i've never understood
one special friend
one true love
why each of us must lose everyone else in the world"

---Robert Smith "This is a Lie"

It's also my belief that everything ends. So if I become involved in a woman I only set myself up for a heart break via death, break off, or loss of feeling.

I honestly think that humanity would be happier better off if our notions of love were changed a bit. This idea of "one special person" just seems to invite trouble.

But good luck..sincerely...to everyone involved in the matriomoney thing. My parents have been together for thirty some years and they still enjoy each others company. Hopefully the same will go for you.

morellademone · Post by **morellademone** » Sun May 11, 2003 1:07 pm

Thank you Anoki you made a good point. We all have differing opinions and that's a good thing. That's what makes us individuals. Oh yea and congrats and good luck to those getting hitched. You have more guts than I do. :wink:

candicide · Post by **candicide** » Sun May 11, 2003 5:51 pm

I agree with Anoki, that yanno...everyone has their own opinions, and love is a subject that people usually feel pretty strongly about in one way or another. I can also see why the other individual would get so defensive...there was an announcement of something beautiful and life-changing, and it was dissed repeatedly. Not that no one is allowed to diss, but it's kind of ouchie when all 80% of the people who respond to your moment of joy are basically calling you a retard for following your heart and being happy about it.

I never wanted to get married before I met my fiance....I had been in several long term relationships, and never felt the need to marry. The institution of marriage never seemed to really matter...like legalizing the bond made it less...personal. I have been proposed to five times, and have accepted once.

I never wanted children before, either...but I guess things change when you meet "the right person". *shrugs*

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Sun May 11, 2003 6:18 pm

IsisPanthea wrote:I have to disgree with you. You're making generalized statements; not all people get married in order to solve relationship problems. Most of the time (and I know there are exceptions) people get married because they are in LOVE. Happy marriages are not as rare as you think. There are lots of them and as CelticSmith pointed out, there are times when it's hard. If the two people are committed to each other, there's not that much that can't be worked out, enjoyed, etc. My first husband just happened to be an immature twit, but my new man is just that: a man. But, marriage is not for everyone. Just like having kids is not for everyone. People need to make that decision for themselves and the naysayers should keep their pessimistic traps shut.

I never said that ALL people get married to solve relationship problems, only that I hate it when people do get married to try to fix things. There is a big difference. Also, Kasi and Jay, CelticSmith and BearDragonLady, and LadyIvanna and Doc don't really have traditional marriages either, that's probably why they get along so well.

People are allowed to disagree on this forum, however, we do frown upon you telling others with differing opinions to "keep their pessimistic traps shut."

I could tell you honestly what I think about the aforementioned marriage, but I'll be nice and keep it to myself.

Oh, and I got my invitation to OmegaDuck and Candicide's wedding! Weee!

Nemesis · Post by **Nemesis** » Sun May 11, 2003 7:18 pm

IsisPanthea wrote:I have to disgree with you. You're making generalized statements; not all people get married in order to solve relationship problems. Most of the time (and I know there are exceptions) people get married because they are in LOVE. Happy marriages are not as rare as you think. There are lots of them and as CelticSmith pointed out, there are times when it's hard. If the two people are committed to each other, there's not that much that can't be worked out, enjoyed, etc. My first husband just happened to be an immature twit, but my new man is just that: a man. But, marriage is not for everyone. Just like having kids is not for everyone. People need to make that decision for themselves and the naysayers should keep their pessimistic traps shut.[/i]

Just for the record...My Pessimistic Trap as you so gracefully put it can and will stay open and say whatever it wants...

If you don't like hearing it... don't listen to it.. If you don't like seeing it... don't read it...You have the individiual freedom to do both... :wink:

karlaBOO · Post by **karlaBOO** » Sun May 11, 2003 7:52 pm

Oh,shut the fuck up, all of yas.

MahoganyDawn · Post by **MahoganyDawn** » Sun May 11, 2003 8:22 pm

karlaBOO wrote:Oh,shut the fuck up, all of yas.

*giggle* I love you too Karla!

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Sun May 11, 2003 9:05 pm

Nemesis wrote:Just for the record...My Pessimistic Trap as you so gracefully put it can and will stay open and say whatever it wants... If you don't like hearing it... don't listen to it.. If you don't like seeing it... don't read it...You have the individiual freedom to do both...

HAHAHAHAHAH. i love that guy..... hahaahah
but really, do what you want. say what you want about it. if your getting angry over shit that doesnt effect you or the things people have to say about your actions or words, youve got too much spare time, masturbate more, complain less, and above all: shut yer cockgobbler cuz your wasting OUR air.....if you do get angry expect someone to call you on it, (which i think nem did an effective job of here.....).
just dont bitch cuz you feel the need to whine about people not agreeing with you. if we all thought the same, we woulda commited mass suicide years ago.
congrats to all the gonna be married people
congrats to all the successful married people.
as for the rest of us, meet me at the bar to make jokes about it.
-end my two cents.

Serenity · Post by **Serenity** » Wed May 14, 2003 12:10 pm

I simply cannot believe that in this forum it states to "be nice" and some people can't seem to do that. LOL....well, I am very surprized to see how outraged people can get over this subject.

I am just smiling and laughing because I LOVE my husband and frankly I don't care who thinks that is corny, or stupid or whatever.

Yes, I am going to be happliy married this weekend and I hope someday everyone here can find their happiness, by finding a long-term partner, a wife or husband or maybe being forever single.
My opinion is that everyone deserves love, happiness and someone special to share that with, and I hope you all do find that.

Laura

Serenity · Post by **Serenity** » Wed May 14, 2003 12:20 pm

"This idea of "one special person" just seems to invite trouble."

Well, I can't image being with anyone else honestly. I do believe in marrige of the soul. Not to marry because of money or anything materistic...that I do disagree with. My soul is commited and I know I want to marry because I want to bond with his soul and his with mine. The wedding is nice but our own private ceremony is really special. Real true love is out there, I have been knocked down SO MANY times...beaten (literally), heartbroken and much worse but I got back up and really believed that true love is real. I have found it and I would die before I would loose it again...

"But good luck..sincerely...to everyone involved in the matriomoney thing. My parents have been together for thirty some years and they still enjoy each others company. Hopefully the same will go for you.[/quote]

Thank you CD... :wink:

MahoganyDawn · Post by **MahoganyDawn** » Wed May 14, 2003 12:51 pm

My parents celebrated their 51st wedding anniversary in March. I know that love exists, and that couples can last a lifetime. I'm just saying that everyone has a right to state their oppinion.. and "being nice" doesn't mean NOT stating ones oppinion. And telling everyone who doesnt agree with you to "shut up" isn't very nice aswell.

If you have such trouble with the people of Knoxville and especially with the people on this board.. you are more than welcome to leave both the city and the board. No one has ducttaped you to the server or to the town. Basically it looks like you are trying to start some sort of flame war.. and it's not appreciated.

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Wed May 14, 2003 12:54 pm

Psycho Killer

(The Talking Heads)
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I can't seem to face up to the facts
I'm tense and nervous and I
Can't relax
I can't sleep 'cause my bed's on fire
Don't touch me I'm a real live wire
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
You start a conversation you can't even finish it.
You're talkin' a lot, but you're not sayin' anything.
When I have nothing to say, my lips are sealed.
Say something once, why say it again?
Psycho Killer,
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Ce que j'ai fais, ce soir la
Ce qu'elle a dit, ce soir la
Realisant mon espoir
Je me lance, vers la gloire ... OK
We are vain and we are blind
I hate people when they're not polite
Psycho Killer,
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
Psycho Killer,
Qu'est Que C'est
fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa fa far better
Run run run run run run run away
oh oh oh oh oh oh oh oh....

Imp · Post by **Imp** » Wed May 14, 2003 5:04 pm

To get back to the original thread topic....

Congratulations to BlackMetallic and Lady Jacinta!

May you be happy together.

Celestial Dung · Post by **Celestial Dung** » Wed May 14, 2003 5:44 pm

One message was edited and another deleted due to references toward personal matters.

Please refrain from posting personal information about other members of the board.

And as you've noticed we've got a whole new marriage and love thread to debate in. My apologies for my own wanderings from the original thread.

http://www.knoxgothic.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=532