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Logic · Post by **Logic** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:11 pm

....I get banned I just want you all to know that I am truly sorry if anyone was personally offended by anything I said. I never meant to and I honestly didn't think I could hurt anyone. I still don't.

My message is this. Everything is opinion unless you yourself witnessed it. You never know if what's coming through is truth.

The reason I have been so hostile is because I honestly don't believe my opinion matters. If I can't change everyone's mind then to me there is no point on doing it. That is what I believe is wrong with society. Always thinking that partial is enough. Well, I hate to think of anything that way. I think if everyone could just realize what we don't need and what we're way past then we could live on as a species perfectly happy. That means simplification. Everything is simple and nothing is complicated. If it seems complicated then someone either made it look that way or you're not looking at it right.

I express a lot of different views here to see which are most popular and to refine my own to perfection. You've all helped me a lot.

How are we ever going to find bliss and eternal happiness when we have things like the news dragging us down every time we turn on the TV? It doesn't matter to you and as soon as you realize that the better off you'll be.

Mr. Bush, we know your lies, we know your agenda, and we know full well Junkie Christ's left pinky toe is more intelligent than you. No one said you could be president and send our troops away for nothing more than making you look good and making money. We could have solved this easily without war. We are the motherfucking United States of America with the brightest and most open minds the world has to offer.

There is no reason for any of you to feel afraid.

I have a lot more to say but I have debate at 4:00, so, for now....

....be good to one another and always question everything.

I'm a household name.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:22 pm

Logic wrote:.
Mr. Bush, we know your lies, we know your agenda, and we know full well Junkie Christ's left pinky toe is more intelligent than you.

thanks
and i gotta say, that whole post was pretty well put together even if people disagree.
cant judge a man by his politics people.

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:16 pm

Logic wrote:I'm a household name.

You wish, kiddo. I'm the one with enough full-time volunteers spreading rumors about me to staff the National Perspirer, and Junkie makes me look like Mother Teresa if you listened to all the crap about him.

Troll-baiting is a cheap thrill, but scandals feed the empty masses forever. :lol:

celticsmith · Post by **celticsmith** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 4:24 pm

This is all opinion....so I shall cite no sources.

I submit respectfully that all truth, even that which you witness personally, is subjective to your own point of view.

Much like the planet you stand upon. It is far too big, but to see at angles. Even in Space you can only see, at most, half.

More so with you...

All we see of you is that which you present upon this narrow conduit. Thus you should take care that what you present is what you want others to see of you. Thus far, I hope, you have recklessly ignored that from the start. I say "I hope" because if I am wrong, then I am wasting my time here.

Your very first post (Sheep...if I recall correctly) was an undirected insult to everyone.....

To what purpose, I wonder?

Your stated reason was to get a reaction.....To make yourself feel empowered by forcing others to respond. Your own words (more or less).

Now you express surprise that people respond to you negatively. That they can't move past that initial first impression.

You failed to take into account the opinions and viewpoints of others. In a social forum this is the PRIMARY concern. One's own personal opinions will always be secondary to that.

Rather than share your own unique viewpoint. One which like all viewpoints has equal value. You chose to inflict it. This is much like the Christian viewpoint verses the Pagan. Both are equally valid since neither can be proven. Leaving them in the realms of faith, of opinion. Yet, the Christians (not all of them, granted) feel so strongly that theirs is the right one and are threatened by and counter viewpoints. So they inflict them. Radical Muslims are very much the same way. This is why no one invites either radical muslims nor Radical Christians to the really good parties. The Pagans are almost always invited....but that may be due to their herbal connections.

Oops...Sorry folks! Off on a tangent....back to my topic.

Rather than feel out where generally the line between constructive criticism and blatant offensiveness lies, you leaped..... heedless to the consequences. Which brings me to the crux of the matter.

Consequences...

It is well recognised, by my people anyway, that one is free to do whatever one wants to do....provided one accepts the consequences of one's own actions.

Love, Lie, Build, Steal, Kill......Doesn't matter what.

If one kills...and does such a poor job of it that they get blatantly caught. I have no respect for one who says "I didn't do it" when all the evidence....or better being caught in the act. I have no respect for one who get aquitted on a technicality, or claims insanity.

But like in the movie Slingblade. "I killed him cause Ah reckun he needed killin'. " Then he turned around and called the cops to come clean up the mess and take him to jail. Which is where people who kill go so they won't kill somebody else.

Savy?

So you say, "I just want you all to know that I am truly sorry if anyone was personally offended by anything I said. I never meant to and I honestly didn't think I could hurt anyone. I still don't."

"...I am sorry "IF" I did..."

Reads as, "I didn't do it"

"...I never meant to...."

And yet, obviously, I did or there would be no problem.
reads as Technicality.

"....I honestly didn't think I could hurt anyone. I still don't."

reads as Pleading Insanity. Claiming not to know right from wrong.

So....upon reflection. I may very well be wasting my time.
Still one of my family mottoes is "Spero Melioria". Latin for "I hope for better things."

You may be tempted to argue these points. That would be a waste of time. For I present only my own opinions. Arguments only breed resentment and solve nothing. You can only change my opinion....ANY BODY'S opinion through actions.

Demonstrate the wrongness of my actions through deeds, not words. I believe, as others have expressed to me, that your's a lost cause.
Unlike them, I know that you can chose to be different at any time. I feel that you will not chose to, for it would require quite a lot of effort for very little reward.

That reward being the wide spread belief that your own opinions matter and have value.

I want you to prove them wrong.
I want you to prove me wrong.

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:00 pm

The Pirate hath spoken.

"bows head"

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:15 pm

CS: You are above all else a prime example of what I hate about people. You are also giving example of why I got so pissed off at this board in the first place.

BTW: That was not my first post and that makes a HUGE difference.

Everything you stated is conclusion of perception.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:37 pm

Logic wrote:Everything you stated is conclusion of perception.

You know what's really funny?

He stated that very thing at the beginning of his post.

This statement has been brought to you by The Redundant Department of Redundancy.

The Stormstress · Post by **The Stormstress** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:39 pm

IMO, everything iz a conclusion ov perception <<< see, even that... I, also, don't believe n

eternal happiness

... just a never-ending rollercoater atttempting balance... what goez up, must cum down & all, ya kno... :shrug:

I also think that there iz room 4 opinion variance. Regardless, I do appreciate ur post on this thread az being more str8-4ward & less attacking... I think that it'z far more likely 2 b taken seriously n a less confrontational form.

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 5:40 pm

Iblis: Not exactly.

He's one of those people who takes emptying the dishwasher over loading it.

The original post on this page is much more offensive than anything I've said here.

iblis · Post by **iblis** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 6:09 pm

Logic wrote:Iblis: Not exactly.

Ah. You do not perceive this to be exactly what he said, and hence have formed the opinion that he did not mean precisely that.

It's all so crystal clear, now. :roll:

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Wed Dec 24, 2003 6:27 pm

It doesn't matter anyway. I've said what I wanted and someone did exactly what I wanted them to.

Vampilot · Post by **Vampilot** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 9:40 am

-And some of us believe in the right to carry firearms as well...
(has nothing to do with the above topic, just for informative purposes... <grin>)
-V

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 10:21 am

Oh, I'm not touching that one.

<First you label yourselves and now you label me.

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:18 pm

Logic wrote:Oh, I'm not touching that one.

<First you label yourselves and now you label me.

Actually I think it only Logic-al that that tag apears under your name seeing as how that is exactly what you are doing.

Have a nice Holiday Logic

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:23 pm

i love the scrow troll links... always a treat...... :sic:

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 12:37 pm

It's damn logical.

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:07 pm

Logic wrote: Can't wait to see y'all in August.

I.Can't.Wait.:twisted:

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:39 pm

You're insane if you think I won't have protection or even that you'll know it's me.

Logic · Post by **Logic** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:41 pm

Wait....scratch that. I'll only be with my best friend who I could easily knock out and I'll be wearing a shirt with and "L" or the word "Logic" on it.

scarecrow · Post by **scarecrow** » Thu Dec 25, 2003 1:59 pm

Logic wrote:You're insane if you think I won't have protection or even that you'll know it's me.

You posted your picture on your Xanga.......

And why would you need protection?

I never made any threats.....just can't wait to meet a real life troll that's all. They seem so scary in movies.... :rofl:

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