• Chronicles of Narnia

Posted: **Thu Dec 30, 2004 3:27 pm**

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/th ... arnia.html

looks like they're doing the whole series(live action like LOTR)

Posted: **Thu Dec 30, 2004 11:14 pm**

I remember seeing a live action The Lion the Witch and The Wardrobe done by the BBC when I was in school...it wasn't too impressive...

Posted: **Sat Dec 10, 2005 10:45 pm**

Like, WHOA.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:05 am**

i'm against cs lewis

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:53 am**

rec|use wrote:i'm against cs lewis

What could you possibly have against old Clive Staples???

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 11:56 am**

not so much him on a personal level
or even as a professional

but more the fact that his writing are deemed OK
because he claims to be christian

where as
jk rowling, dungeons and dragons, pokemon, or what ever else hip pop culture thing that pops up
dealing with "dark" subjects
is burned, banned, pissed on etc..

i just don't think it's fair

(and i know life isn't fair)

but there's just something really horrible about that
that leaves a bad taste in my mouth

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:01 pm**

I see your point, but its not his fault really that that is the way Christians are.

I find him interesting because he was an atheist for so many years and then converted.. I'm not a christian but I enjoy the things of his I've read...I think him and Tolkien were both amazing even if they were Christian and thus accepted.

I think that the Harry Potter books have many great moral lessons, like on friendship, etc that go along with Xtianity.

*sigh* People are silly aren't they?

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 12:05 pm**

*sigh* People are silly aren't they?

yes

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 3:32 pm**

if they do the series fuck them even harder for starting out of sequence. fuck that george lucas "start in the middle" wanna bes, it only worked for him.

and im totally against the fucking remake of a good series to turn into LOTR wanna me special effected mindless dribble.
i swear the trailers are just insulting people who read the books.

i can see why people wouldnt like CS Lewis, his questionable views of children not withstanding into that judgement.
but it beats the living shit outta its red headed stepchild of direct influence, Harry Pooper.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 4:13 pm**

I read the books and I thought it was fucking awesome.

As for the order thing=

The first American publisher, Macmillan, put numbers on the books and used the publication order. When HarperCollins took over the series, the books were renumbered using the internal chronological order, as suggested by Lewis' stepson, Douglas Gresham.

The Magician's Nephew (1955)
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950)
The Horse and His Boy (1954)
Prince Caspian (1951)
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (1952)
The Silver Chair (1953)
The Last Battle (1956)
Gresham quoted Lewis' reply to a letter from an American fan in 1957, who was having an argument with his mother about the order:

"I think I agree with your order (i.e. chronological) for reading the books more than with your mother's. The series was not planned beforehand as she thinks. When I wrote The Lion I did not know I was going to write any more. Then I wrote P. Caspian as a sequel and still didn't think there would be any more, and when I had done The Voyage I felt quite sure it would be the last. But I found as I was wrong. So perhaps it does not matter very much in which order anyone read them. I'm not even sure that all the others were written in the same order in which they were published." (Dorsett & Mead 1996)
Nevertheless, the reordering has angered many fans of the series who appreciate the original order, which introduces important parts of the Narnia universe in the early part of the series and then provides explanation for them later in the prequels, in particular the creation story in The Magician's Nephew. Other arguments for the publication order include that Prince Caspian is subtitled "The Return to Narnia", and that the following fragments of text from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe support it as being the first book in the series:

"None of the children knew who Aslan was, any more than you do."
"That is the very end of the adventure of the wardrobe. But if the Professor was right, it was only the beginning of the adventures of Narnia."
Another argument cited by proponents of the original order is that if the series is first read in the chronological order, the reader can never experience the original order without the knowledge of the prequels. On the other hand, the chronological order can still be enjoyed after first reading the original order.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:12 pm**

I enjoyed the books as a kid. Not to the same degree as I adored Watership Down or Tolkien, but they were good stories for a youngster. Can't say as I remember any of the sequels very well though...

I am avoiding this one for the christian rock soundtrack. You fuckers lost a ticket sale with this marketing ploy. The references in the book was sufficient. Don't need to be knocked about the head with a hammy soundtrack too, thanks.

Curious to see how the handle Pulman's his Dark Materials, although that series really faltered after the second book.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:23 pm**

Onibubba wrote:I enjoyed the books as a kid. Not to the same degree as I adored Watership Down or Tolkien, but they were good stories for a youngster. Can't say as I remember any of the sequels very well though...

I am avoiding this one for the christian rock soundtrack. You fuckers lost a ticket sale with this marketing ploy. The references in the book was sufficient. Don't need to be knocked about the head with a hammy soundtrack too, thanks.

Curious to see how the handle Pulman's his Dark Materials, although that series really faltered after the second book.

Dude, where do you people get this info? There was no xtian rock soundtrack, it was all classical music composed by Harry Gregson-Williams

1. Blitz, 1940
2. Evacuating London
3. Wardrobe
4. Lucy Meets Mr. Tumnus
5. Narnia Lullaby
6. White Witch
7. From Western Woods to Beaversdam
8. Father Christmas
9. To Aslan's Camp
10. Knighting Peter
11. Stone Table
12. Battle
13. Only the Beginning of the Adventure
14. Can't Take It In (As Used in the Film the Chronicles of Narnia: The Lio
15. Wunderkind (As Used in the Film the Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The
16. Winter Light (As Used in the Film the Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, T
17. Where (As Used in the Film the Chronicles of Narnia: The Lion, The Witch

I thought it was a beautiful soundtrack actually....I imagined I'd hear Lisa Gerrard or Liz Frasier any minute...prolly did.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 7:45 pm**

Hardcoregirl wrote:I read the books and I thought it was fucking awesome.

As for the order thing=

The first American publisher, Macmillan, put numbers on the books and used the publication order. When HarperCollins took over the series, the books were renumbered using the internal chronological order, as suggested by Lewis' stepson, Douglas Gresham.

The Magician's Nephew (1955)
The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe (1950)
The Horse and His Boy (1954)
Prince Caspian (1951)
The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (1952)
The Silver Chair (1953)
The Last Battle (1956)
Gresham quoted Lewis' reply to a letter from an American fan in 1957, who was having an argument with his mother about the order:

"I think I agree with your order (i.e. chronological) for reading the books more than with your mother's. The series was not planned beforehand as she thinks. When I wrote The Lion I did not know I was going to write any more. Then I wrote P. Caspian as a sequel and still didn't think there would be any more, and when I had done The Voyage I felt quite sure it would be the last. But I found as I was wrong. So perhaps it does not matter very much in which order anyone read them. I'm not even sure that all the others were written in the same order in which they were published." (Dorsett & Mead 1996)
Nevertheless, the reordering has angered many fans of the series who appreciate the original order, which introduces important parts of the Narnia universe in the early part of the series and then provides explanation for them later in the prequels, in particular the creation story in The Magician's Nephew. Other arguments for the publication order include that Prince Caspian is subtitled "The Return to Narnia", and that the following fragments of text from The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe support it as being the first book in the series:

"None of the children knew who Aslan was, any more than you do."
"That is the very end of the adventure of the wardrobe. But if the Professor was right, it was only the beginning of the adventures of Narnia."
Another argument cited by proponents of the original order is that if the series is first read in the chronological order, the reader can never experience the original order without the knowledge of the prequels. On the other hand, the chronological order can still be enjoyed after first reading the original order.

pretty neat. thanks for the link to that. i never that about them.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 8:26 pm**

Hardcoregirl wrote:
Dude, where do you people get this info? There was no xtian rock soundtrack, it was all classical music composed by Harry Gregson-Williams

I thought it was a beautiful soundtrack actually....I imagined I'd hear Lisa Gerrard or Liz Frasier any minute...prolly did.

Suicidegirls actually. Not the management, just us numbfucks on the boards...My bad. Just read the rumors, bought 'em, and didn't bother to check up on it or anything. If I had done so, I would have seen that there is a CD of christian rock inspired by the movie, but it is not the soundtrack.

Thanks for the heads up!

Not sure how they will be able to top this Edmund though -

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:31 pm**

A friend of mine went to see it on opening night.
Some chiropractor/ preacher rented out a theatre in Turkey Creek and charged everyone 15 bucks to hear him preach and see the movie.
My friend only went because someone else got him in for free.
He told me that after the movie was over the chiropreacher went around the theatre asking everyone if they had accepted Jesus in an attempt at mass conversion.
Sounded like a big scam to me.
At any rate, this movie is being promoted in virtually every Christian bookstore in the country right now, which is one of the main reasons I'm going to avoid it and those people like the plague.

I generally don't do family films anyway.

Posted: **Mon Dec 12, 2005 9:49 pm**

Zeo wrote:A friend of mine went to see it on opening night.
Some chiropractor/ preacher rented out a theatre in Turkey Creek and charged everyone 15 bucks to hear him preach and see the movie.
My friend only went because someone else got him in for free.
He told me that after the movie was over the chiropreacher went around the theatre asking everyone if they had accepted Jesus in an attempt at mass conversion.
Sounded like a big scam to me.
At any rate, this movie is being promoted in virtually every Christian bookstore in the country right now, which is one of the main reasons I'm going to avoid it and those people like the plague.

I generally don't do family films anyway.

Well most everyone knows I'm not Christian and am VERY against them shoving shit down your throat...however, CS Lewis was a great writer and wrote some awesome fantasy...even his "apologetics" are interesting reads.

Just because it was written by an atheist who turned Christian later in life doesn't mean its a Xtian movie...There is a hero who sacrifices himself and comes back to life...and a couple other similarites to Christian stories, but...well...I'm not gonna waste my time defending it. Plus if you didn't read the books as a kid you prolly wouldn't get it anyways. And of course Disney is gonna market it to the xtians everywhere...why not, they dont' get many movies that they can take the kiddies to. It is rated PG 13 though I think because of the violence...

Christian or not, Lewis wrote some fantastic tales and its not preachy in the least bit...no more than Harry Potter or anything else that has a whole good triumping over evil theme.

Magic is actually much more visible in the story than anything Christian.

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2005 3:14 am**

Hardcoregirl wrote:Christian or not, Lewis wrote some fantastic tales

true. while the man's belief's can influence his stories, it doesn't detract the fact that he is a very vivid storyteller. "the great divorce" was probably my favorite of his works.

i didn't even know the cat was christian until i saw this thread. shows how much i pay attention. :-?

Posted: **Tue Dec 13, 2005 7:39 pm**

Hardcoregirl wrote:14. Can't Take It In (As Used in the Film the Chronicles of Narnia: The Lio

Heh heh heh.

Posted: **Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:30 pm**

OK, I saw it last night...

First point. If you can make a fucking lion talk and look mildly realistic...All I ask is that you make the green screen not so fucking obvious for that background. Jesus, everytime they did a pan scenery "shot" i thought I was going to kill myself.

Second. Follows the book exactly.

Third. The soundtrack...Blew ass. Waaaaay over dramatic, very cliche.

Fourth. The fawn was awesome.

Fifth. The acting wasn't as bad as I had planned for....but I planned for the worst.

Sixth. The battle scene was very ver LOTR and Braveheart like. Too much so for my tastes.

Seventh. The Magician's Nephew was origionally written first...so so I had been told. I beleive it was published later due to it's litteracy weaknesses.

Save it for DVD...Sorry to say it, because I was really really happy they made another version of it...but it's not worth the 10 bucks.
To put it into perspective...I would rather spend the money on Aeon Flux than Narnia...

Posted: **Sat Dec 24, 2005 10:08 am**

since i watch nearly everything on dvd now, this looks like a nice pick.