if you voted for Kerry, you NEED to read this!

Damia_Thorne · Post by **Damia_Thorne** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:25 pm

I know I have this link on my signature. But since it's been there for so long, I don't know if anyone ever looks at it. He has just made a very important update that includes something about Kerry UNconceding that I thought y'all might want to read:

PLEASE CLICK HERE

judas gnb · Post by **judas gnb** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 12:38 pm

I dont think you can do that.There again folks what do i know i voted for bush *snickers*

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 1:15 pm

judas gnb wrote:I dont think you can do that.There again folks what do i know i voted for bush *snickers*

god this kills me to say, but hes right.

Damia_Thorne · Post by **Damia_Thorne** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:34 pm

Ok, IF you had read the damn thing you would have seen that he wrote that he hopes that it's not just a rumor.

Anyway, let's just say you two are right. That doesn't change the fact that there are MILLIONS of pissed off voters. Too many people didn't get their chance to vote or their vote wasn't counted. Besides, it is the LAW that either Kerry or five registered voters from any state can demand a recount. Go ahead and check me on that because I heard that straight from a Republican's mouth. Plus, the ripped off voters have a constitutional right to sue over that crap. Even if he really can't UNconcede, there's going to be such a damn fuss that Bush won't be able to ignore it...unless he tries to get rid of the constitution before then.

count ALL of the votes: KERRY WON!

judas gnb · Post by **judas gnb** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:43 pm

I really really really hate to beat a dead horse.But Bush won on all counts no matter any way you spin it to look good for Kerry the backlash on the left was too much hints Bush wins by 3 points.But ladies and gentlemen of KG I feel that after a week of looking at it and call Bush names I really feel its time to move on I know i have. Although I did read today that Howard Dean wants to head up the DNC.I hope he gets to cause Howard Dean=ratings

Damia_Thorne · Post by **Damia_Thorne** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 2:58 pm

I'm not moving on until they count ALL of the votes. Unless you ignore the news, you KNOW that they weren't all counted. Whether it takes Bush out of office or not, I think that is only fair. Don't you? We all know that Kerry conceded, but that doesn't make those people feel better that didn't get counted before then. If the voting system wasn't so messed up, we would have known the actual count by Wednesday morning.

judas gnb, you telling me to move on isn't changing anything. I love ya to death, but I'm sorry. I can't help how I feel.

Hardcoregirl · Post by **Hardcoregirl** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:52 pm

judas, I have yet to see you give any good arguments for supporting Bush.

C'mon homeskillet, you can shake yer ass for dolla bills but can you back up your man for some respect?

And if its just cause your mommy and daddy said to be a republican...thats no good reason.

judas gnb · Post by **judas gnb** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:55 pm

yea i watch the news and i find that they were in kerry's back pocket the whole time just as fox news was in bush's back pocket and as far as counting votes go ahead bush still won as fair and square as you can win here

Mercurygriffin · Post by **Mercurygriffin** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 3:56 pm

i have excepted that I will have to deal with 4 more years of the cumbest man on earth as my president but I hope this goes long and drawn out because I love the idea of bush turning to his advisers every five minutes and saying something akin to " so what's we gonna do now?" :twisted:

Buttercup wrote:judas, I have yet to see you give any good arguments for supporting Bush.

C'mon homeskillet, you can shake yer ass for dolla bills but can you back up your man for some respect?

And if its just cause your mommy and daddy said to be a republican...thats no good reason.

and an answer to to this would be nice too.

Post by **Bone** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:20 pm

I hope there will be no shutting up and getting over it. Bush is holding america hostage with fear tactics. He is destroying our economy. He has ruined America's face in the world forum.

G.W. Bush is a much greater destructive force to America than any Terrorist organization is or has been in the past.

Christ, he makes words up during speeches to sound intellegent and important. Yet, you expect this man to lead America to a glorious future?!?!?!

The only place he is leading us is to economic disaster and World War 3.

Bush has done nothing to save our econemy... He put bandages wounds that needed stiches, and still left the wound open to infection. His policies have been REASONS for the loss of jobs, inflation, as well as the loss of human lives the world over!

BUSH HAS DONE NOTHING POSITIVE FOR AMERICA HIS ENTIRE TERM OTHER THAN PUT STOP GAPS ON PROBLEMS HE HELPED CREATE!

Am I mad he got re-elected? Yes, but more at the fact that America seems more concerned about two guys expressing their love for one another through marriage than the fact Bush unjustly INVADED a country, killing thousands of people, and where by the looks of things will cost thousands more...

I am tired of hearing, "get over and move on"
Bush is dangerous to ALL of us! for that reason I refuse to "get over it and move on"
Besides, no one has to date given me ANY valid reason I should support Bush.

However Bush HAS made America the greatest terrorist organization in the world......

Post by **Bone** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 4:31 pm

Oh all you Anti-Bush Ministry fans check this video out

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:13 pm

judas gnb wrote:yea i watch the news and i find that they were in kerry's back pocket the whole time just as fox news was in bush's back pocket and as far as counting votes go ahead bush still won as fair and square as you can win here

all the people who think Rush is a valid mouthpiece and fox news is actually honest say ALL THOSE OTHER NEWS STATIONS ARE LIBERAL SUPPORTERS!!

hate to burst your bubble, but they are all in R pockets, not D.
find me one station that actually supported kerry and said it
i looked. a big list of war is great, bush makes me masturbate.

EXPLAIN THIS IF YOUR CORRECT. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6368819/#041109a

WHY CANT THE MAJOR MEDIA TALK ABOUT THE OBVIOUS CONFIRMED VOTER FRAUD.

heres a big list of links i stole from a friends xanga, now these are getting closer to valid arguments.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6368819/.041109a

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... ing_report

http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/HL0411/S00124.htm

http://www.michaelmoore.com/words/index.php?id=284

http://www.tompaine.com/articles/kerry_won.php

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 5:25 pm

judas gnb wrote:I really really really hate to beat a dead horse.But Bush won on all counts no matter any way you spin it to look good for Kerry the backlash on the left was too much hints Bush wins by 3 points.But ladies and gentlemen of KG I feel that after a week of looking at it and call Bush names I really feel its time to move on I know i have. Although I did read today that Howard Dean wants to head up the DNC.I hope he gets to cause Howard Dean=ratings

Well, as I said on my blog:

"There are people calling for post election "unity", and others saying that any attention paid to voting irregularity is just sour grapes. Just "putting it behind us" and "getting on with things" won't unify the country or save or civil liberties; and frankly, even *if* Bush might have won in any case we aren't relieved of the responsibility to vehemently protest election fraud, no matter which side it favors. To quietly ignore what happened, or to accept your side winning an election by fraud, is short-sighted, unpatriotic, and dangerous.

It's not a matter of being a Democrat and losing an election; it's a matter of being an American and losing our rights."

judas gnb · Post by **judas gnb** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:15 pm

I sat back and thought long and hard.Why did i vote for Bush going against my families wishes.I voted with my heart and it said Bush im sure most of you voted with your heart and you saw fit to vote Kerry.I with all my heart feel Bush is right for america,for those of you who scream you have lost rights well i look around and i havent lost a damn thing as a matter of fact under Bush i was able to move outta my parents house get a job and right now im living the american dream.Under Bush my life has inproved my parents life has improved so i did whats right not for "judas"i did whats right for Dustin Palmer i.e. me. Now i dont have any fancy links to show how CBS has it out for Bush beleave the hype if you want but we are all goin to be ok at the end of the day i promise.I still love you all. im out

Damia_Thorne · Post by **Damia_Thorne** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:28 pm

Bone wrote:Oh all you Anti-Bush Ministry fans check this video out

great video Bone!

I only have one question: judas/Dustin, do you have the nerve to watch all of it? just wondering. :shrug:

I really didn't mean to start a damn war with judas on this thread. But hey, we are under Bush's rule now and he LOVES war, doesn't he? :evil:

judas gnb · Post by **judas gnb** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 6:42 pm

watch what.......did i miss something shit baby i said my peace on the whole ordeal love war hell no bush doesnt......ah hell whats the point im goin to look at porno and listen to stuck mojo

JaNell · Post by **JaNell** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:15 pm

judas gnb wrote:...as a matter of fact under Bush i was able to move outta my parents house get a job and right now im living the american dream.

Sawa's bush? :lol:

TheInfiniteMonkey · Post by **TheInfiniteMonkey** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:57 pm

Just out of curiousity, those of you who voted for Kerry, were you voting for Kerry or just against Bush? Which would be totally understandable, sometimes, regardless of which way you go you just have to chose the lesser of two weasels...

One question I have, after hearing Judas' reasons for voting as he did is just what exactly were Kerry's good points anyway?

Ook?

Celestial Dung · Post by **Celestial Dung** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 11:03 am

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2004/11/10/voting/

Salon, a traditonally liberal webzine, tackles the accusations of voter fraud.

That voter irreguarlities happend is obvious, voter irregulariities always happen either by plan or mistake. Trouble is can we guarantee that there wasn't mistakes in Kerry's favor? Give it two weeks, a conservative pundit is gong to present evidence that the democrats tried to stack the election. My thinking is that for the most part the electoral process was honest, buggy as hell but honest. Hopefully the proper comissions will see this as reason to correct the flaws for the next elections.

Bush supporters have one things right, we should get over it. In two years there's going to be congressional elections. We should could over Kerry and get to work in promoting candiates that will support a more liberal agenda. We should get over Kerry and promote gay marriage so when the Bush adminisration tries to force their ideas of morality on us they will not succeed. We should get over Kerry and promote enviromental sanity. We should get over Kerry and promote getting the hell out of Iraq. Lest we forget, politiceans listen to us. Lord knows they read enough polls to see what we are saying. Sway the public opinion. Change the course of history.

But to do that we must first get over losing. Bush won. No way around it. Time to pick up our chins and do some radical work.

The Infinite Monkey has a point that needs adressing. Next time let's try to get a canidate that we support not because we hate the alternative but because we think the canidate is worthy of our support. If hatred is all you can bring to a presidential campain then your not going to win.

junkie christ · Post by **junkie christ** » Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:36 pm

TheInfiniteMonkey wrote:Just out of curiousity, those of you who voted for Kerry, were you voting for Kerry or just against Bush? Which would be totally understandable, sometimes, regardless of which way you go you just have to chose the lesser of two weasels...

i voted for kerry because hes the only candiate ive agreed with since Clinton. His policy list and supported issues read like my personal agenda.