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Sitting in a room, surrounded by no one...except my self, accept myself. Shitting on my doom, your grounded by someone...accept myself, except myself. Playing head games in my little big world...straying from it all, staying with it all...drinking alcohol, and playing barbidols. Stop! Go! Drop!NO!Know is to forgive, dumb is to forget...except myself, accept myself. Tell me what I need...Good drugs Bad...Bad Drugs good. Help me, what I had...Bad Drugs Good...Good Drugs Bad. Show me what is odd...God drugs bad, bad drugs GOD!
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I like my poem! It was written during a period of figuring out whether I needed drugs or not. I have decided they are an essential part of my being, and without them I become fucking psychotic! :twisted:
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That's the most asinine thing I've heard in a while...Ever think that Drugs are the REASON you're 'psychotic'...Which I doubt that you are...Look up the word 'psychosomatic', kid...Drugs are pointless fucking wastes of time, money, life, sanity, glamour, success, & breathe...I'm not going to lay down an anti-drug pamplet here...You're a big boy...You do what you want...Because, I don't know you...& if you where not exist one morning...I'd shed no tears...But really...Look at what you just said...*rae*...Does that really make sense to you?...
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I can reazonably understand where u r cumming from n the poem ... having been thru the bar & pharmacy a coupla timez, myself ...

There r sum peepz that require drugz (Rx or not) 2 maintain thier mental health temporarily or 4 life ... There r also a grrr8 many who simply abuze & uze them 2 escape ...

Ur life iz ur own & what u make ov it ...
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The Stormstress wrote:I can reazonably understand where u r cumming from n the poem ... having been thru the bar & pharmacy a coupla timez, myself ...

There r sum peepz that require drugz (Rx or not) 2 maintain thier mental health temporarily or 4 life ... There r also a grrr8 many who simply abuze & uze them 2 escape ...

Ur life iz ur own & what u make ov it ...


Well...My friend Cristoff needed meth to function properly...He's now Skitzo...My brother needed Coke & Oxy's for his normal routine...My sister found him on the bathroom floor (Also, Skitzo)...& my mother needed Vodka to sleep...38 to the scull...Now...How does this help, exactly...You're right...Your life is your own...But that doesn't mean that I'm gonna point out what a waste you're making of it...Or that, by depending on a chemical, you are a waste to this planet...My Island...That's all... :twisted:
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First of all, Marijuana is not a chemical, neither can you OD or become chemically dependant on it. It helps me to relax without spazzing on someone or doing stupid shit. Then, I occasionally will do some coke or acid or whatever else, when I feel the need for it. Of course you don't know me or what I can handle. Also, I am a 25 year old male, not quite what you would call a kid. Yes, I believe in such thing as excess. I USE drugs, but I don't abuse them. I wrote that when I was sober and going through a lot of serious personal shit. So, mainly, weed is my drug of choice, followed by the Liquors Absinthe and Chartreuse. No offense taken by either of you, I appreciate your concern. I'm not some cracked out and strung out teenager, and in fact I AM very much a big boy. It's just without freedom to USE, I become very crazy(I have been in Peninsula), and they also help me to become creative with my writing and drawing, nuff sed. Thank you guys for caring, nevertheless.
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P.S.: Being a user of drugs does not automatically make one scum of the planet as long as you know when the glass is full and when to say when, thank you very much.
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Aerick Ravenheart wrote:First of all, Marijuana is not a chemical, .


But isn't tetrahydrocannabinol?? LOL
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Buttercup wrote:
Aerick Ravenheart wrote:First of all, Marijuana is not a chemical, .


But isn't tetrahydrocannabinol?? LOL


Thank you, Buttercup, for making my first point...lol...

And for the rest...Of the 'know-your-shit' rant...

First of all, Marijuana is not a chemical, neither can you OD or become chemically dependant on it.


Um...Yes...THC, the chemical in Marijuana that causes the 'high'...Is a chamical...Can cause you to overdose in large amounts...& can cause you to become chemically dependent...Your body can become dependent to any chemical that it does not make on it's own...

Then, I occasionally will do some coke or acid or whatever else, when I feel the need for it.

I would like to point out that LSD & Cocaine are HIGHLY addictive...Can cause you to overdose...& are obviously chemicals...The previous being completely man-made...I would also like to point out the fact that you used the word 'need'...

Of course you don't know me or what I can handle. Also, I am a 25 year old male, not quite what you would call a kid.


You're right, I don't know you...But, I'm a 21 year old male...& I'm still gonna call you kid...I call everyone kid...

I'm not trying to argue with you about anything...I could honestly care less....It's just sick, to me...To see someone justify drug use...That's all..."Do what thou will...That shall be the whole of the law..."[/quote]
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4X541N7 wrote:
The Stormstress wrote:I can reazonably understand where u r cumming from n the poem ... having been thru the bar & pharmacy a coupla timez, myself ...

There r sum peepz that require drugz (Rx or not) 2 maintain thier mental health temporarily or 4 life ... There r also a grrr8 many who simply abuze & uze them 2 escape ...

Ur life iz ur own & what u make ov it ...


Well...My friend Cristoff needed meth to function properly...He's now Skitzo...My brother needed Coke & Oxy's for his normal routine...My sister found him on the bathroom floor (Also, Skitzo)...& my mother needed Vodka to sleep...38 to the scull...Now...How does this help, exactly...You're right...Your life is your own...But that doesn't mean that I'm gonna point out what a waste you're making of it...Or that, by depending on a chemical, you are a waste to this planet...My Island...That's all... :twisted:



I am sorry 4 ur lossez & hav, myself, seen mannny fall 2 such drug abuse. It seemz, however, that u r saying that every person on a drug/med/substance, Dr. prescribed or otherwize, iz a waste ... o_o If so, that iz waaaay beyond ridiculous, imo!
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im just not touching this.
at all.
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I'm interested in hearing 4X541N7's opinions on alcohol use. Tell me, aside from the legalities, how is occasionally smoking pot any different from occasionally getting drunk? If you think using drugs is ridiculous and a waste of money, what about alcohol?
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junkie christ wrote:im just not touching this.
at all.


LOL..prolly a good idea, man.

I don't know...I've done many drugs and though they may be blamed for some of my problems, I don't really regret a minute and I believe they helped shape who I am.

My mom was a morphine/demoral addict who lost her nursing license because of it, my uncle who was like a father figure I lost to Hepatitis C, my cousin has robbed his own family members and is strung out on Oxycontin. Then again, my dad and 2 grandfathers have been alcoholics (which is probably worse than most illegal drugs) and one was killed by lung cancer....My ex husband overdosed numerous times and found himself committed to mental institutions on various occasions...

Me-I've done lsd, marijuana, cocaine, ecstacy, oxycontin and a host of other "uppers, downers, screamers and laughers,'" and have never had any problem with addiction what-so-ever. I quit exactly when I wanted to quit and still haven't been too much of a waste, always having jobs and as you know, recently getting my bachelors degree.

I also have to disagree that lsd and marijuana are physically addicting. Some lamers may be psychologically addicted but its not like nicotine or opiates...

I think bragging about drug use is really fucking lame though, doing drugs around children, or really being out of control of one's life...so, its not usually drugs that make a waste of a person, that person probably was weak in the first place.
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TheStormstress wrote:I am sorry 4 ur lossez & hav, myself, seen mannny fall 2 such drug abuse. It seemz, however, that u r saying that every person on a drug/med/substance, Dr. prescribed or otherwize, iz a waste ... If so, that iz waaaay beyond ridiculous, imo!


No...That's not what I'm saying...But, in a way, close...Anyone, who uses a chemical, that is not produced by the human body...On a regular basis...For anything other than a strictly medical reasons...Is fuct-up somewhere...I drink alcohol every now-and-then...But, I haven't been drunk in over 5 years...My point was...If you use a drug/chemical/substance/whatever...To find gravity in your well being emotionally/psychologically...You are a waste...Lose the crutch...Grow up...& take some responcability...Age Appropriate Behaviour...If you can't deal with life, as it is...Don't...Just let it slip away...Comatose...Or .45...Choice is yours...

junkie_christ wrote:im just not touching this.
at all.


You've heard my $0.02 on this...Hell...You've been on the other end of this discussion...

Russo wrote:I'm interested in hearing 4X541N7's opinions on alcohol use. Tell me, aside from the legalities, how is occasionally smoking pot any different from occasionally getting drunk? If you think using drugs is ridiculous and a waste of money, what about alcohol?


Um...Alcohol is worse...Difference is...Some people can drink...Without getting drunk...Or getting a buzz, even...Not many smoke pot, without having the plan of getting high...And let's see...Some alcohol tastes good...Pot...Taste like stale menthol cigarettes...Let me make this important decision...lol...

Buttercup wrote: I don't know...I've done many drugs and though they may be blamed for some of my problems, I don't really regret a minute and I believe they helped shape who I am.

First...As I know you now...You don't actually claim that drugs hindered your life, or at least not to me, you haven't...Nor have you boasted about their effect on you...Do you still use them....& if so...Do you use them as a crutch...If not...Than you are completely excluded from this...


Buttercup wrote:Me-I've done lsd, marijuana, cocaine, ecstacy, oxycontin and a host of other "uppers, downers, screamers and laughers,'" and have never had any problem with addiction what-so-ever. I quit exactly when I wanted to quit and still haven't been too much of a waste, always having jobs and as you know, recently getting my bachelors degree.


Ok...Little facts about 4X...
I've done-Marijana, Cocaine, Psylocebians/shrooms (sp?), Homemade Absinthe (check that shit out sometime), Tetra, Peyote, Crystal Meth, Special K, Ecstacy, & a rediculious number of pills...So, don't act like I'm preaching without experience...Please...Guess what, though...No drugs in 3 years...& I'm doing fine for myself...Never once did them as a crutch...Did them because they where there...Which is probably worse...

Buttercup wrote:I also have to disagree that lsd and marijuana are physically addicting. Some lamers may be psychologically addicted but its not like nicotine or opiates...


How so...I agree that neither is HIGHLY addictive...But, I fail to see how you can say that they aren't at all...

Buttercup wrote:I think bragging about drug use is really fucking lame though, doing drugs around children, or really being out of control of one's life...so, its not usually drugs that make a waste of a person, that person probably was weak in the first place.

That was somewhat my point...If you need drugs...You are a waste...It's not the symptoms, that make you a waste...Drug abuse in this case...It's the cause...You where a waste from the beginning...Also...I think that trying to justify drug use is 'really fucking lame'...That wasn't directed towards you, Buttercup....Just to clairify...

Side Note: If you feel that any of this was personally directed towards you...& it wasn't specified...You can take it that way...That's probably just guilt...No matter who you are...Though, note, that all direct 'attacks of characture' are clearly defined....
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"Feel the need" was a figure of speech. I don't NEED drugs, I WANT to USE them from time to time. $X, good for you for staying clean if that's how you want it. It is true, "Do what thou wilt". I just don't appreciate the need to say I should go ahead and die by a .45(not suicidal, now THAT is a waste), or to OD. (I take other drugs besides weed in moderation.(Haven't done coke in 2 years, but would do it again, I LIKE the way it makes me feel, same with acid or shrooms, been a year since magic mushrooms.) I just LOVE marijuana. Am I smoking it NOW? YES, from time to time. And for drinking, only from time to time in moderation, everyone hates a sloppy drunk. 4X, I respect your opinion, just don't try to shove it down my throat like a bad pill, I might fucking OD....And a Man I am, being 4 years older with more experience than you. I can take care of myself, thank you. So lets drop it here and not argue. I enjoy your poems too much to dislike you, man. Anyway, I'm out like a fat kid in Dodge Ball.
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Aerick Ravenheart wrote:"Feel the need" was a figure of speech. I don't NEED drugs, I WANT to USE them from time to time. $X, good for you for staying clean if that's how you want it. It is true, "Do what thou wilt". I just don't appreciate the need to say I should go ahead and die by a .45(not suicidal, now THAT is a waste), or to OD. (I take other drugs besides weed in moderation.(Haven't done coke in 2 years, but would do it again, I LIKE the way it makes me feel, same with acid or shrooms, been a year since magic mushrooms.) I just LOVE marijuana. Am I smoking it NOW? YES, from time to time. And for drinking, only from time to time in moderation, everyone hates a sloppy drunk. 4X, I respect your opinion, just don't try to shove it down my throat like a bad pill, I might fucking OD....And a Man I am, being 4 years older with more experience than you. I can take care of myself, thank you. So lets drop it here and not argue. I enjoy your poems too much to dislike you, man. Anyway, I'm out like a fat kid in Dodge Ball.


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4X541N7 wrote:
Russo wrote:I'm interested in hearing 4X541N7's opinions on alcohol use. Tell me, aside from the legalities, how is occasionally smoking pot any different from occasionally getting drunk? If you think using drugs is ridiculous and a waste of money, what about alcohol?


Um...Alcohol is worse...Difference is...Some people can drink...Without getting drunk...Or getting a buzz, even...Not many smoke pot, without having the plan of getting high...And let's see...Some alcohol tastes good...Pot...Taste like stale menthol cigarettes...Let me make this important decision...lol...


Some alcohol is really good.
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4X541N7 wrote:
Buttercup wrote:I also have to disagree that lsd and marijuana are physically addicting. Some lamers may be psychologically addicted but its not like nicotine or opiates...


How so...I agree that neither is HIGHLY addictive...But, I fail to see how you can say that they aren't at all...


They both are addictive if you have an additcive personallity. you also have to take into acount bio-chemistry. Where as some people smoke a bowl and do nothing some smoke a bowl and clean house and write poetry and make music and deal with their boss. LSD is the same way but I suggest you take a vaccation. maybe go camping or something.
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This looks messy...

My husband has thankfully been perscribed the right drugs to keep him sane & happy after a complete nervous breakdown about 5 years ago. Not all chemicals are bad. Some help folks lead normal lives not otherwise attainable by any other means.

Abuse of anything is never good & some people are prone to addicitive behaviors & just get out of control in all kinds of circumstances. Marijuana is no worse than wine or beer, in my opinion, but if the wrong individual messes with any of the above, you can bank on trouble.

Moderation is always key, as is self control.

Some drugs have absolutely no redeeming value, though. Meth & crack are good examples. Both destroy all that they come in contact with. I'm sure arguments could be made for other substances as being similarly negative. Pot, alcohol, or perscription meds can be harmless when used in perscribed moderation & even improve quality of life.

The nausea of a cancer sufferer relieved with a few puffs from a joint, so that they can tolerate eating... the glass of cholesterol-lowering red wine had to unwind when driving is out of the question... or life-enhancing medications to combat dpression, anxiety, or any number of other disorders spring to mind. When used sanely & responsibly, these things are blessings.
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I think that sometimes the "chemical" high that we feel, gives us the balls sometimes, to say and do what we normally would not. I do not believe that it is directly the result of the high, that the actions are brought on. I believe that the inspiration and ability to voice such things was there all along, but the drugs just made it a bit easier to have the guts to do. I think that people have a problem with becoming dependent on that feeling of lowered inhibition. So they call it "inspiration" and pretend that their true selves come out when they're high. I disagree, and I feel like people demean theirselves when they try to pull that shit. I have known alot of very talented people, who knew they were talented and voiced that. The talent was within them, and had nothing to do with drugs drawing that out of them. I just wish more people saw that they were special, and believed they were all the things they somehow become when they're high, without the high.


I personally do not do drugs, and I also tend to keep company with people who share the same views as I do.

*looks around* like my cat for instance, drug free! :oops:
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