fake abortion clinics = fucked up

Asher · Post by **Asher** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 6:08 pm

Bone that av is adorable.

This is ..frightening really. What's next?

Dark Elf · Post by **Dark Elf** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 8:40 pm

Nice. Back to the days of illegal, underground, unsanitary abortion clinics because people are too afraid to walk into the "real" ones!! thats it....fear to get them to submmit! Back to the inqusition & dark ages......fuckers.

Lady A · Post by **Lady A** » Tue Apr 25, 2006 10:25 pm

I want to know how anywhere claiming to give "medical" advice can get away with the breach of confidentiality!?! Anyone who has been to the doctor,dentist,hospital,etc, in the last 4 years or so probably remembers signing some paper about HIPPA/confidentiality laws. I know from working in the hospital we're inserviced about it EVERY year, and if we even talk about a patient, no names just the details of the case, in the elevator or food court or anywhere, we are considered "breaking confidentiality" and could lose our jobs. These people should be arrested for what they did to break the trust of this young girl. Not to mention the physical and emotional ramifications it will have on her in the future.

This story is way fucked up and it just unnerves me to think the Bush administration is wasting even more of our money supporting causes such as this.

Didn't I hear a quote sometime ago about a "New World Order"?......

Dark Elf · Post by **Dark Elf** » Wed Apr 26, 2006 12:18 am

...they are wasting our $$$ in more ways than one. WTF?

uncouthyouth · Post by **uncouthyouth** » Thu May 11, 2006 3:17 pm

What a bunch of evil, heartless, selfish retards.

Dark Elf · Post by **Dark Elf** » Fri May 12, 2006 1:01 am

But they are CHRISTIANS
Doesnt that make it OK?

uncouthyouth · Post by **uncouthyouth** » Fri May 12, 2006 6:44 am

Dark Elf wrote:But they are CHRISTIANS
Doesnt that make it OK?

Oh, I didn't mean them. :shock:

TiredUnhappy · Post by **TiredUnhappy** » Wed May 17, 2006 1:28 pm

I made a post on your xanga about this Ben... but I'll post on here as well..

I don't have a problem with places like hope resource center. my mom has volunteered there in the past, and nothing like that has ever gone on. She was a teen mother, and was only there to offer counceling to others in that position. (encouragement, not harrassment) However, I don't think it's right to harrass and abuse women who want to have an abortion. It's their legal right, and until it isn't...don't get in the way. I am pro-choice, anti abortion. I chose to keep my baby, and would gladly talk to other girls who might go through what I went through. it is possible to have a life, survive, and have a baby. but if they want to abort...not my problem! I have raised my son alone. I went through my pregnancy alone. I understand what it's like to be a single parent...and I'm fine with that. I am 100% against partial birth abortion, rights, choice, or not. That may offend pro-choice folks, but the procedure offends me. I believe our society is set up completely backwards and that education should be provided before, instead of after the fact. If you want to have sex, just know that there's no 100% guarantee you won't get pregnant. so don't be surprised if you do. If someone can't handle the responsibility of their actions...then maybe they should think twice before doing them. On the same note, if someone is using contraceptives...and they fail..I understand they shouldn't be "punished" for atleast trying...

It also never fails to shock me, that people think condoms protect against all stds. The lack of education in our society is AMAZING. When I was faced with this obstacle, with a choice...I became educated. I didn't go to a pro-life clinic. (In fact the only clinic I've been to is planned parenthood, to get a morning after pill. ) I researched. I think that people need to do this, no matter what choice they make.

Francesca · Post by **Francesca** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:35 am

Oh, let me just add another layer to this whole thread... not only do they not want you to have an abortion, they also don't want you to be sterilized.

I've never wanted to have children but I had to wait until I was 35 to get "fixed" because doctors won't consider it if they think you are too young to change your mind.

I had just divorced and a year after, I went in to the OB for my consult and to schedule the procedure. He spends a good 5-10 minutes asking me questions and saying are you sure and you realize this is not reversible... then he finally asks me have you ever had an abortion. I told him yes and he said "well ok!" and immediately scheduled me.

And for the record, I was amazed at how simple the abortion procedure and recovery was. Actually I was pissed that I had bought into all the hype about how difficult it would be. I don't know if I was just lucky (I also did not have any emotional baggage about it which I'm sure helped) but remember sharing with the nurse afterwards my feelings on the subject and her saying that they hear that a lot.

Oh, and people will be assholes. I worked for Blue Cross at the time of both procedures in the same department that approves procedures so selected coworkers knew about both things happening. After I had the abortion, some anti abortion pamplets began to regularly appear in the ladies room that I used at work. I had never seen any in the 5+ years that I had been there, but the pamplets stuck around for the remaining 2 years after. And it did make a difference in how people treated me. (but then again, 96% of their employees are female, many of whom are christian conservative. And when you do something they are not allowed to do, well, they hate you for breaking "their" rules. And they hate it worse when you don't act like it was a traumatic experience.

Francesca

karmakaze · Post by **karmakaze** » Thu May 18, 2006 1:19 pm

TiredUnhappy wrote:I made a post on your xanga about this Ben... but I'll post on here as well..

I don't have a problem with places like hope resource center. my mom has volunteered there in the past, and nothing like that has ever gone on. She was a teen mother, and was only there to offer counceling to others in that position. (encouragement, not harrassment) However, I don't think it's right to harrass and abuse women who want to have an abortion. It's their legal right, and until it isn't...don't get in the way. I am pro-choice, anti abortion. I chose to keep my baby, and would gladly talk to other girls who might go through what I went through. it is possible to have a life, survive, and have a baby. but if they want to abort...not my problem! I have raised my son alone. I went through my pregnancy alone. I understand what it's like to be a single parent...and I'm fine with that. I am 100% against partial birth abortion, rights, choice, or not. That may offend pro-choice folks, but the procedure offends me. I believe our society is set up completely backwards and that education should be provided before, instead of after the fact. If you want to have sex, just know that there's no 100% guarantee you won't get pregnant. so don't be surprised if you do. If someone can't handle the responsibility of their actions...then maybe they should think twice before doing them. On the same note, if someone is using contraceptives...and they fail..I understand they shouldn't be "punished" for atleast trying...

if i was a women, i would find it insulting that people felt that they had to "encourage" me to change my mind in a choice that would be mine to make.

TiredUnhappy · Post by **TiredUnhappy** » Thu May 18, 2006 3:46 pm

karmakaze wrote:
TiredUnhappy wrote:I made a post on your xanga about this Ben... but I'll post on here as well..

I don't have a problem with places like hope resource center. my mom has volunteered there in the past, and nothing like that has ever gone on. She was a teen mother, and was only there to offer counceling to others in that position. (encouragement, not harrassment) However, I don't think it's right to harrass and abuse women who want to have an abortion. It's their legal right, and until it isn't...don't get in the way. I am pro-choice, anti abortion. I chose to keep my baby, and would gladly talk to other girls who might go through what I went through. it is possible to have a life, survive, and have a baby. but if they want to abort...not my problem! I have raised my son alone. I went through my pregnancy alone. I understand what it's like to be a single parent...and I'm fine with that. I am 100% against partial birth abortion, rights, choice, or not. That may offend pro-choice folks, but the procedure offends me. I believe our society is set up completely backwards and that education should be provided before, instead of after the fact. If you want to have sex, just know that there's no 100% guarantee you won't get pregnant. so don't be surprised if you do. If someone can't handle the responsibility of their actions...then maybe they should think twice before doing them. On the same note, if someone is using contraceptives...and they fail..I understand they shouldn't be "punished" for atleast trying...

if i was a women, i would find it insulting that people felt that they had to "encourage" me to change my mind in a choice that would be mine to make.

I would encourage someone to make the best choice they felt they should make. Like I said, I am pro-choice..anti-abortion. I chose to keep my baby, because it's my choice to make. but someone else can choose to do something entirely different. Those are my views on it, plain and simple. I would offer counseling to women who have already had their children, to women who are single mothers. I would offer counseling to women who think they should keep their baby, but might think it will be hard to do "alone". I did it, I'm alone. I'm just fine. I am a woman. I've been through this. I have a sad but wonderful story I can share. It's not a pro-life story, it's not a pro-choice story. It's just about being strong. That's what I would encourage someone to do. Make sense?

I'm not taking their fuckin rights away.