John Cheese wrote:I'm afraid most of you are missing the point of the article. There is good music and there is bad music. I'm sorry that you happen to like the music that's on the "bad" list, but that's just how life works sometimes. It's the same with art and movies. There is a clearly defined list of what is good and what is bad, and there is no subjectivity involved. There is no such thing as "personal taste." I'm afraid you might have been given some bad information.

For instance, any piece of music that features a banjo is good. Any piece of music that does not feature a banjo is subpar at best. It's the reason this whole "goth" thing will never catch on. No banjos.

umm no.
no thats the biggest load of horseshit ive ever read
what are you the author?
everyone decides what they like and what they dont and there is no universal good or evil to music.

not even the beatles.

as bad as i hate korn, theres someone who thinks that music is good. i just dont agree with them.
im hoping that you made a joke post in that. seriously.

Yea...I said it...

What motherfuckers?!

</gangster mode>

Mother Mo wrote:Points weren't missed. Just disagreed with.

No, I saw no disagreement there. It was clearly a missed point. You see, you can't disagree with me because I am right. Facts cannot be argued, and facts are what I presented in that article. So, clearly, you just have a problem processing the data I presented. Did you not see the study I linked to in the article?

junkie christ wrote:no thats the biggest load of horseshit ive ever read
what are you the author?
everyone decides what they like and what they dont and there is no universal good or evil to music.

not even the beatles.

as bad as i hate korn, theres someone who thinks that music is good. i just dont agree with them.
im hoping that you made a joke post in that. seriously.

There is no joke there, my friend. What I presented were absolutes that cannot be argued with. There is no such thing as personal taste, as shown in this study that I conducted. Subjectivity does not exist.

As a professional banjo player, I'm going to have to agree with John. Some musical styles are demonstrably better than others; indeed, numerous studies have shown a direct correlation between banjo use and musical quality (the most famous of which has already been linked, it was compiled in 2001 by Herby and Kraukbauer). No one is quite sure why banjos make music better, but there are several well-supported theories, and the fact that they improve musical quality is essentially indisputable.

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I think john cheese has had way to much cheese ..perhaps its causing some blockage and thats whats stuck up his ass.

sorry, morgan is rubbing off on me.

Hahaha! I get it! You made a joke about cheese because my fake internet name ends with "Cheese!" That's awesome! You should be a comedy writer because you're insanely original and in no way a clueless, retarded sack of shit!

I stand by my argument. People are simply not allowed to like things that others do not. If you do, it obviously means that you are or will be a child molester. Uniformity exists, but subjectivity does not.

hahah. i pissed someone off today...

weeee i win!!!!

John Cheese wrote:
I stand by my argument.*
People are simply not allowed to like things that others do not**.
If you do, it obviously means that you are or will be a child molester.***
Uniformity exists, but subjectivity does not.****

*i.e. delusion
*so I should fall in line and not like you too, then?
***so if we like you then we are child molesters?
****so we should all be uniform in not liking you so we won't be child molesters?

Ok.

tbones wrote:I think john cheese has had way to much cheese ..perhaps its causing some blockage and thats whats stuck up his ass.

sorry, morgan is rubbing off on me.

Eh, I think he's just a bored guy who has way too much fun also pissing off other people on the internet. I doubt HE takes anything he says seriously.

Hardcoregirl wrote:Eh, I think he's just a bored guy who has way too much fun also pissing off other people on the internet. I doubt HE takes anything he says seriously.

He's fucking hilarious even if he is not serious..
If he is serious, even more fucking hilarious...

His website is funny too. Funny queer, not funny ha-ha.

oh come on, hes just trolling to promote his website (which im betting is ran from a server in his bedroom/mothers basement)

theres about 200 or 300 other sites that are doing that "ive got webspace so now everyone listen to me be correct!" thing too. they suck too.
i dig how most of his site is portals to other peoples material, mostly thats on every other site like this.

unoriginal.

and if you expect me to believe that he just happened to sign up to the board after someone posted this, stamp me as braindead for the rest of my days.either he knows a board member or he googles himself wayyyyyyyy too much
but making the second new user under himself and commenting? comeon. thats just pathetic.

normally i laugh at this kinda shit, but his jokes arent funny, personal attacks are lame, and material is ripped off.

people like this thrive for hatemail because they think it makes them elite.

Dee Dee Dee...

John Cheese wrote:

junkie christ wrote:no thats the biggest load of horseshit ive ever read
what are you the author?
everyone decides what they like and what they dont and there is no universal good or evil to music.

not even the beatles.

as bad as i hate korn, theres someone who thinks that music is good. i just dont agree with them.
im hoping that you made a joke post in that. seriously.

There is no joke there, my friend. What I presented were absolutes that cannot be argued with. There is no such thing as personal taste, as shown in this study that I conducted. Subjectivity does not exist.

LMMFAO... Nice chart, John Cheese... (or is it Bartholemew?) I love how it has such an impressive array of info on it supporting your claims...

Hardcoregirl wrote:

tbones wrote:I think john cheese has had way to much cheese ..perhaps its causing some blockage and thats whats stuck up his ass.

sorry, morgan is rubbing off on me.

Eh, I think he's just a bored guy who has way too much fun also pissing off other people on the internet. I doubt HE takes anything he says seriously.

Hey, you dragged the troll in here. Don't try to weasel out of it.

John Cheese wrote:I'm afraid most of you are missing the point of the article. There is good music and there is bad music. I'm sorry that you happen to like the music that's on the "bad" list, but that's just how life works sometimes. It's the same with art and movies. There is a clearly defined list of what is good and what is bad, and there is no subjectivity involved. There is no such thing as "personal taste." I'm afraid you might have been given some bad information.

For instance, any piece of music that features a banjo is good. Any piece of music that does not feature a banjo is subpar at best. It's the reason this whole "goth" thing will never catch on. No banjos.

No one missed the point of the article...we just don't agree with you on some of it.

And as for there being no such thing as "personal taste"... well isn't that what defines us all as individuals? YOU obviously prefer music that contains a banjo and there is nothing at all wrong with that. But just because YOU think that's good music does NOT mean the rest of the world agrees with you. You do have the right to express you opinions but don't run crying to your mommy when the rest of us don't agree with you and bash your conformist ideals.

I refuse to believe that you people can be this fucking stupid. I know that goths are, by nature, morons. But seriously, have you ever met anyone in your entire 12 years of existence who HONESTLY believes that "there is no such thing as personal taste?"

oh come on, hes just trolling to promote his website (which im betting is ran from a server in his bedroom/mothers basement)

Please. My last article did 1.5 million views. Luring 12 clueless goths to a website that's above their intellect ceiling isn't exactly a promotion that intrigues me. I came here because I was told by a couple of your board's members that you people were so incredibly dense that I could dupe you into thinking damn near anything. Unfortunately, they were correct. Oh, to be 15 again.

oh great, im getting an intellect debate with someone who makes fake graphs in MSpaint
man i feel like ive been just ripped a new one.

one of those assholes that says look at my webtraffic!!!!!!!! i must be correct!!!!!

god i expected that and i had it my originial post and snipped it out
damn i wish i wouldnt have now

that doesnt mean your correct, it means you view your page alot
and so do the people that laugh at your blackbelt in fucktard.

ill say it again

people like this thrive for hatemail because they think it makes them elite.

i think we found the one man who cant get a date in a goth club.

junkie christ wrote:oh great
one of those assholes that says look at my webtraffic!!!!!!!! i must be correct!!!!!

god i expected that and i had it my originial post and snipped it out
damn i wish i wouldnt have now

that doesnt mean your correct, it means you view your page alot
and so do the people that laugh at your blackbelt in fucktard.

ill say it again

people like this thrive for hatemail because they think it makes them elite.

It was a rebuttal to the person who assumed I was trying to gain traffic. You're... kind of an idiot, aren't you? It's ok. I don't blame you for that. It's part of being a goth.

Also, I haven't gotten hatemail on the article. Everyone else on the planet sees the fact that it's a bait article, meant to make cocksuckers like yourself angry for no reason. You assume too much, child.