Germans say Bush Admin has gone too far...

[Melicious Scam]

*sings* It's beginning to look a lot like 1984.

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This will probably make me a total heel, but, what i speak is MY opinion, and not that of someone else, who wrote an article, as most people like to cut and paste.

For criticizing someone's ideas you are all as big of idiot as he. Maybe he can't full express his views, because he really doesn't fucking care. I do find it funny that someone took a stab at his religion (since he has none) as being the reasoning he voted for bush. Or maybe it was this.

You see, people who say they hate, usually do something about it. I voted for Kerry, i hoped alot of others would too...at least a majority of people...but looking at it now, i really realise he wasn't cut out for the job. I still dislike Bush, but thats besides the fact.

Most of you (including myself) voted for a guy who never cared to stop by, and shake a hand, kiss a baby, or say what he wanted to do, at least not to my knowledge, correct me if i'm wrong, but he basically said fuck the southern states, they're not going to vote for me anyway. Most retarded rednecks are so caught up in patriotism that its ridiculous, however, a good talker, which kerry was, could have at least brought the vote a little closer to home.

I defy any of you to piss and moan at this stage. If you feel half as compelled to not have bush in office, maybe you could have done something more about it than just voting. It doesn't stop there, you could have helped with the campaign. Some of you have full ass jobs, and don't have the time, i understand, i don't either, but really, its sorta like promoting a club night. The really successfull ones are the ones that go out, put up fliers, talk to people on the phones, tell a friend to tell a friend, check the web..GO FUCKING VOTE.

See the problem wasn't there wasn't enough people, it was the fact that not enough of them voted.

If you truely want something bad enough (wheather it be a grilled cheese sammich or bush out of office) you can always do MORE to help get that goal attained.

Kerry was a good talker, he had good ideas, and he's done some good stuff...but he's not a stratigist. I also have a feeling thats what lost him the war on bush.


I would also like to state that i find it humerous, that someone can get pissed at J$'s opinion, then call him out for not respecting 'his opinion" that he "stated" when it was never his opinion anyway..it was Eliot Weinberger's. Infact most of these 'opinions' are someone else's. I challenge most people to come up with a well stated 'opinion' as Mr Weinberger's. Well written, well produced, and all that jazz. Of course make it where it could appear in a magazine ( by that don't call bush a fucking moron).

Its really hard, but shit...most of the people i respect around here did it PRE election. Its a little late now, and truthfully kids everyone sounds like a child with spilled milk.

Regardless, Judas got the cheap heat with the hitler comment, (and honestly that reporter probably wasn't even born when that happened, so its not like it's his fault) but honestly, you think of germany, you think of hitler and his wonderfull mistakes. Wheather or not i get an agree here or not i will state an opinion with this next comment....Hitler was a fucking genious. And if you think thats crap, then you are fooling yourself. He made millions of people into brainwashed slaves to do his bidding. Psycho? maybe, but the man was a fucking genious.

The comparisons beetween the two are astounding...bush isn't half as good as hitler tho. If he were each and everyone of you would be sniffing fumes in a gas chamber for your distrust in government.

Bush will always be the good bad guy, cus he feels what he has done is right. Thats the number one rule in being a bad guy.

Regardless, it will all be over in 4 years, and then there can be new bickering amongst yourselfs.

Until then, quit being pissy cus your pick didn't win...or at least have a good reason to be pissy.

(subject for discussion...how the fuck can dustin make someone mad besids always talking about how he voted for bush..he doesn't do anything to piss people off...he knows thats my job)

[QueenOfTheFlock]

My (maybe a little childish) view: I did my part so I have the right to bitch and moan as much as I wanna. People who didn't go and vote....different story. They have no room to talk.

Dustin knows how much I love him....in fact, everyone on this board should know by now that I have three "brothers" in this scene: Barry, Dustin, and Ryan. No matter what differences on politics, religion, whatever that there is, that won't change....these are people that I will stand up and back no matter what. That's what family is for.

[Mercurygriffin]

Okay. Let me see if I can get through this without resorting to being vulger. I vote for Kerry out of pure hatred for Bush. I had never voted before. When he first came in to office I saw the shady way the supream court kind of just handed it over to him and I was a little confusesed but, oh well. The four months that followed was just sound clip after sound clip of him being less than eloquint and wearing costumes (He coulden't fly one straight when he was in the first time, but the jumpsuitmade him famous). I didn't start to hate the man untill the TERROR/911/AMERICA IS UNDER ATTACK tactics started. The whole country was in shock and needed some form of stability, and all Bush could think to do is to remind us of the theat to our lives on a daily basis. I think it is safe to say that everybody already felt that way. Selling fear whole sale and scareing people into performing a perticular action is called TERRORISM. I find him guilty, in my opinion, of usung the same tactics on us as what he clames the terrorists use on their own people. This war has been so good for buisseness in their(Bush and Co.) eyes. And then we find that it was all a mistake. What! No weapons! Your kidding!? Did you look over there, in the corner? Yup. Okay. Looks like THAT WAS USELESS. Sorry, when I am thinking about this stuff I tend to channel the spirit of Sam Kinisen. And now we have four more years of this shit from a fucking moron!

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See merc made a really good effort (even tho the reasoning of i voted for him, cus i hate him is effectivly as bad of reasoning as J$'s 'i just vote for bush" reasoning...even if i technically did the same thing) Now...who else can express THEIR opinion?

Again this isn't hate tactic here...its just sorta like my 9th grade music teacher's voice...monotonous. Well that and i think its sorta piss poor to express one's opinion, and not be able to openly listen to another persons...no matter how little evidence he has to back it up (when you have a well written opinion..not of your own, but similar to your own to atest yours) and how different his opinion is.

[4X541N7]

..Hitler was a fucking genious. And if you think thats crap, then you are fooling yourself. He made millions of people into brainwashed slaves to do his bidding. Psycho? maybe, but the man was a fucking genious.

The comparisons beetween the two are astounding...bush isn't half as good as hitler tho. If he were each and everyone of you would be sniffing fumes in a gas chamber for your distrust in government.

We're very close to that point...Look back in history, at the reign of Hitler, & see how long it took him to set up those kinds of measures....Now realize that Bush has four more years...

I will have to say, first of all, I didn't vote the last election...Why, before all of you give me shit for it...I personally think that, with Bush, we will see the worst state that america has been in since the great depression...or the Civil War...I also think that we will see either The Second American Civil War, or WW3, through this administration...

After going on a mini-anti-Bush rant...He's my anti-Kerry rant...

The reason I didn't vote was, because, while I think Bush is a tyrant...A monomaniacal madman...A greed-driven war-monger...& a volitile leader...Kerry...Well....Kerry sucks...I don't want that man in office...& I'm not about to vote for someone, just because they're the opposition...That would be just as bad, as if I had voted for Bush...

*Dons Paranoid Hat*

Plus your vote doesn't matter, it's all pre-decided for the people, then the system is manipulated into showing that the people decided...

Don't believe me?

Look at the popular vote counts for Bush in 2000, & in 2004...Then add them up for the Electoral College...Wait...That doesn't look right....Looks like gore won the first time...& huh?...Did Kerry win in 2004?...What's up with that?...

I'm not going to get any farther into this arguement right now...But, I will state my opinions at a later date...

BTW, Hitler was a genius...& I think that W's moronic deamenor, is just a facade...I mean, the man has kept us in constant fear for 4 years now...I don't see how a man that stupid, could accomplish the things he has...

[The Stormstress]

The Prez iz just a front 4 the real PTB (Powerz That B) & really haz verrry lil' 2 do with our probz, IMO ... Still, I don't dig him, either.

[Bone]

Okay, here's my take on it...

I have disliked Bush since he first ran for office. After he took office I have liked him even less. His economics have such holes in them that any highschool graduate should be able to see them if they take the time to look. You can't cut taxes without cutting spending. But somehow he believes that he can increase spending on military, health care, ect and still give huge tax cuts. Bush is on the road to bankrupting our goverment.
While his econimics have put some stop gaps here at home, go take a look at what his economics have done to the US dollar vs the world econemy. That's one you don't hear the govermant talking about. I do see it as most of the companies I deal with in my bussiness are from over seas. I have watched serious price increases here in the states items that have bearly went up in the european markets. Why the US dollar is being devalued on the world market. This is one that we see a bit of now, but is going to come back to bite us in the ass HARD very soon.

Bush's foriegn policies have nothing more to do with fact, than his own personal agendas. Hey, lets go after Iraq for WMD that there was no real proof of. Meanwhile N. Korea declares they have a functional nuclear wepons program, and are all but ignored. Now which is the bigger Wepon of Mass Destruction? An "alleged" biochemical short range missle, of a KNOWN Nuclear bomb?
Maybe it's just from me growing up during the cold war, but I'm more likely to lose sleep over someone with the big bomb than someone who has a wepon with a few hundred mile range on it.

Back to Bush's econemy....
Along with putting the country into a DEEP debt through his tax cuts. Bush's unclear and flip flop attitude has put the econemy in the pits. Yes he keeps talking about the econemy is improving, but that easy to say when the American econemy was about ruined under his watch. Was that his fault? In my opinion yes it was. Okay, 911 put a hard brake on the econemy. But rather than than giving America strength and confidence he instead allowed the terroist attack to spread fear throughout the country. He in fact added fuel to the fire telling us none of us were safe. Using that fear to place laws in effect that made it easier to manipulate the country to his own agendas despite the constitution and our own basic civil liberties and rights. The patriot act is some scary stuff if you look at what it can be used for.
Bush flip floped back and forth between "Be Afraid, you are in danger" and "go on vacation, take the family to Disney.Everything is okay"
No one knew what to do. The country looked towards our leader for signs of stability. We didn't get them. Americas econemy suffered for it. Bush's own fear tactics destroyed our econemy. Now he is getting props from some because he rebuilt it. well it's still broke folks. Sadly there are no real signs it will be fixed anytime soon either.

Now I DO want to give props to the republicans for the campaign they ran. IMHO the only reason BUsh got re-elected was the republicans measures to get things like Gay Marriage on the ballets in conservative states to make sure the Christian right got out to vote. Put issues of strong morality on the ballet and you will ALLWAYS get the hard moral Christians out to vote. Pump GWB as the God fearing christian, and you have a large contigant to vote for him, while the cast their votes against a "immoral" issue. Fantastic political stratagy.
I honestly believe had the Gay Marriage issue not been on the ballet in several swing states we would have a new President in office now.
Again props to GWB's political machine.

It can be said that in 4 years it will be all over. Only, if there is anyone competant enough to remove the current powers that be from office.

I voted for Kerry, Mostly because I wanted Bush out, and Kerry wasn't likely to do any worse IMHO. But even more because I believe in political anarchy. Remove the incombants and keep as much of the goverment in change over turmoil and opposing viewpoint balance. That way nothing can really get done unless it is REALLY important. To quote former President R. Regan. "Goverment is not the solution to our problems. Goverment is the problem!"
Keep the goverment from doing anything, I feel is in Americas best interest.

To summerise:
Bush Has not im my opinion been an effective president. He has not shown any true leadership where or when it's been needed. Had we a true leader in office during 911 we wouldn't be in the position we are currently in. The only progress I have seen Bush make has been things to put small bandages on gapping wounds he himself cut into America veins.
Further more he can't admit a mistake, and that is a most dangerous kind of person to have in the oval office. Rightous indignation does not nessicarily make one right.

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Magazine worthy bone...kudos....we need more here people!!!