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Query...

PostPosted: Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:54 pm
by The Fallen
Ok I got juice to my car but when I turn the key nothing happens, not even a click from the starter. Any ideas whats wrong?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 1:34 am
by necrosynthesis
voltage regulator?? happened to me once anyway. same symtoms.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:13 am
by gothic_spleen
could still be the starter....they do that sometimes...when mine went out it didnt click...also check your coilpack...they like to go out when it gets cold...you are having the same problem i have..mine it could be anyone of three things, starter, coilpack, or ignition. Question do u have a microchip in your key...if so it could be the VATS system...if so look into a grand..because the only people who are certified are the dealers.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:58 am
by The Fallen
No chip, 92 pontiac grand prix

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 9:55 am
by gothic_spleen
ok let me do some thinking...check coil pack...does it selectivly start..like random start..if not dont worry about coil pack....it very well still could be the starter...pull it off and take it to be tested..they do that for free.

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 5:31 pm
by The Fallen
no problem...

what does a starter look like? where is it located? and can I get it off with a phillips screwdriver and a pair of pliers?

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 6:28 pm
by gothic_spleen
The Fallen wrote:no problem...

what does a starter look like? where is it located? and can I get it off with a phillips screwdriver and a pair of pliers?
lol..its a gm product like mine...it should be located under the right front tire, obyiously not under it but rather behind it...gm did it weird, what kind of jack do u have...im not an expert at this...in fact when it comes to the procedure i usually have someone else do it...not that i cant but im lazy and have very little patience. Its really small, looks well go to yahoo and type in ur car model and keyword starter that will give u an idea....my car and urs are basically the same...mine is gonna cost around 85 dolars for the part and my friend is gonna put it in for aroun 40, all together id say 130$ im no expert so id have an expert look at it...with GM it could be anything...but if i was to say, it would be the starter...oh and screw driver and pliers wont cut it...u need lots of tools

PostPosted: Thu Jan 26, 2006 10:58 pm
by The Fallen
what is this jack thing you speak of, a mechanic?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:23 pm
by gothic_spleen
The Fallen wrote:what is this jack thing you speak of, a mechanic?
a jack is a tool used too lift a car...u need to raise ur car off the ground to get the right front wheel off. Your car should come with a jack its usuaally under the spare tire in the trunk. Mind u I dont use those types i use a different type but that will do....if u are going to do this plz goto autozone and or avdanced auto..they have how to pamphlets, and cheap how to books...that is what u need if u wanna do this yourself. :D

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:29 pm
by gothic_spleen

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 12:30 pm
by gothic_spleen
thats the link to autozone DYI ive already selected ur car....thats what u need..print it off....oh dont worry about the testing part just rip that bitch off and take it to them they will test it.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 3:19 pm
by junkie christ
fallen, ive got a friend who can help install it, already signed him on.
ive got a jack in my trunk.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:01 pm
by gothic_spleen
junkie christ wrote:fallen, ive got a friend who can help install it, already signed him on.
ive got a jack in my trunk.
thanx junkie....im not toatly 4 shure about his car....thanx again

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 10:36 pm
by Bone
Fallen,
Yeah your problem is one of two things, the ignition switch or the starter solenoid. before you replace the starter you need to check that you are getting power to the starter. Sometimes (I have had this happen several times on differant cars) the wire from the ignition switch to the starter has come off and just needs to be put back on the starter. You will need a test light and someone to turn the igntion switch on while you watch to see it the test light comes on when hooked to the ignition switch wire.
I could show you this easier than explain it, without a VERY long description of whats going on here.

Basically the down and dirty - If the light comes on when hooked to the wire (with the igntion turned all the way to start) the solenoid or entire starter need replaced (in some cars they are seperate pieces in some cars it is one assembly, either way if you can afford it I would replace the entire starter assembly, rebuilt will save you $$$ & Auto zone gives lifetime warrentees on some rebuilt starters). If the light doesnt come on then you probably have a bad switch or a wire to the switch has come off.

There are a few other things to check in the whole thing but thats 9 outta 10 times the story if you have a good battery.

If you need a hand diagnosing your problem let me know, you & Junkies place is not far from the my shop, and I can stop by on the way home from work one day and can run the tests pretty quick to tell what you need to replace.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 11:41 pm
by The Fallen
Well since Tuesday I jiggled a few wires and it started back up but wouldn't start after I moved the car. I believe it is a loose wire. Unfortunately its stuck down near the end of Chapman Hwy. Gonna see if I can't find the starter and stick it back in or something like that Sat afternoon. If that don't work I'll have it towed up to the house and we'll see what we can work out.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 4:03 pm
by gothic_spleen
that is sounding so much like the starter, and yet so much like the coilpack....Thanx Gm for making my life hell...lol oh if its the selinoid...id just get the whole starter...you end up saving money in the future.

PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:14 pm
by The Fallen
Its not the coilpack or the voltage regulator, I do need a new starter tho