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PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 1:36 pm
by celticsmith
Nexxus23 wrote::shock: *looks around*

Did I miss something? Who said Wicca was Celtic? There's no way Wicca's traditionally Celtic, or traditionally anything. It's too young.

Nah....Scorptrio's post about the "Celtic Orthodox Church" back on the thread of the same name (Magic is afoot) in the General Forum reminded me of it. I just think that it is a well written comparison dispelling the myths of a common misconception.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:38 pm
by The Stormstress
Nexxus23 wrote::imwithstupid:

Stormstress, dear, was that you, or someone else?

Good point, btw.

It could only b me! :twisted: I dunno how it got posted as "Guest" (perhapz, I let my log-in expire) Oh, & TY!

PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2003 4:43 pm
by The Stormstress
Anonymous wrote:I'm still of th' inklingz that all pathz r 1 & all pathz r sacred.

While I hav actively sought (& still do) 2 learn about many traditionz/belief structurez (from orthodox 2 totally lax) from both bookz & thoze around me (& still find them 2 b excellent referencez/resourcez), I find it 2 b a purely personal spiritual matter.

... If it workz 4 u, then go with it ... an exercise n free will!

My own fairly eclectic heritage givez me a basic respect 4 the beauty of diversity ... I prefer 2 think of faith n termz of "spirituality" rather than "religion" (& follow more of a "path" than a "doctrine"), becauze crossing that boundary seemz 2 inevitably infringe on the rightz & livez o' otherz (Holy Warz & Campaignz, The Witch Trialz,.........). So, obviously, I do put a bit of credence n2 the science of cauze & effect (Newton'z Lawz) ...a.k.a. "karma".

2 me, God/Goddess iz the purest paradox, every...thing/where/1, no...thing/where/1, positive & negative, masculine & feminine, within & without,...
IMO, All dietiez r "empowered" by the faith/energy focused n2 them by their followerz, much az the followerz r "empowered" by their faith n the dietiez... an infinite exchange. And nterestingly, just az 1 faith/tradition fadez... there iz ever another 2 take it'z place. Why not take what lessonz u can from every source available; yet forge ur own path... ?! Destination unknown?

"The Road Not Taken

2 roadz diverged n a yellow wood
& b 1 traveler, long I stood
& looked down 1 az far az I could
2 where it bent n the undergrowth

Then took the other az just az fair
& having perhapz the better claim
B'cauz it waz grassy & wanted wear
Tho, az 4 that, the passing there
Had worn them really about the same

& both that morning equally lay
N leavez no step had trodden black
Oh, I kept the 1st 4 another day!
Yet, knowing how way leadz n2 way
I doubted if I sould ever cum back

I shall b telling this with a sigh
Sumwhere agez & agez hence
2 roadz diverged n a wood
& I took the one less traveled by
& that haz made all the difference" --- Robert Frost

--- The Stormstress

PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 5:26 pm
by junkie christ
Noise wrote:
junkie christ wrote:wicca is as celtic as basketweaving is fun to a crackhead.

you have problems junkie ... you have problems.
What Im really trying to say is.,,, I wish I had thought of that comparison. Props... keep up the good work pal.

yes i do... :dup:

and the spelling in that post shows it was stormy. only she types in that language... :lol:

really though i liked the giant post but i had to reread a couple of lines.... haha. this thread is getting fun...

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:02 am
by Nexxus23
Somewhere, someone is having a stroke over Stormy's spelling of Robert Frost's poem. Heheheh.... :twisted:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 10:47 am
by The Stormstress
Nexxus23 wrote:Somewhere, someone is having a stroke over Storm's spelling of Robert Frost's poem. Heheheh.... :twisted:

1 can only hope, eh?! :twisted:

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 12:00 pm
by iblis
What, how, and why I believe is something so complex, that it's almost beyond my ability to communicate. However, for the short, short, short version, bereft of a gazillion important details:

I believe in reality. I think that "magick" is simply getting reality to believe in you. I also think that all of this - regardless of how far fetched - can be proven by science. That is, f we had the knowledge and technology to do so.

And I suppose that in time, we just might.

PostPosted: Tue Oct 07, 2003 9:39 pm
by Nexxus23
iblis wrote:I believe in reality. I think that "magick" is simply getting reality to believe in you. I also think that all of this - regardless of how far fetched - can be proven by science. That is, f we had the knowledge and technology to do so.

And I suppose that in time, we just might.

Actually, that makes sense... so un-ibbie-like... you feelin' OK, ibbie? :D

And yes, I believe magick and psi will be explained (along w/ ghost phenomena) eventually. A lot of work has already been done regarding geomagnetics, which is tentatively considered a factor in most supernatural occurances.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 08, 2003 6:53 pm
by abreeskye
I'm not sure where I stand.

I believe there is some sort of higher power. But, I can't see it having form. I perceive it as being energy. It's hard to explain. Kind of like a feminine and masculine energy.

Sometimes I feel like all the religions are there to explain this higher power "energy".

I don't neccessarily want to "worship" any diety or anything. But, alot of the rituals and things along that line that I have read interest me. I think alot of it has to do with our minds. And, doing some of these rituals helps us concentrate on achieving peace of mind, or whatever you do this and that for, and we are actually opening our minds up to it, and connecting to the energy around us.

I believe in cause and effect. Whenever you put out bad energy, bad energy comes back to you. And, that energy, by the time it makes its way back to you is probably alot worse. I also believe that you have to get the bad shit in life, in order to get some good. If things go too smoothly, or seem to be too good in my life, I start worrying. Because, 9 times out of 10, something bad is about to happen. And vice versa.

I have searched forever it seems. Searched to find some understanding of the world around me. I have read lots of books. But, most of the stuff I have read, I have had at least a few problems with. I mean, there are alot of religions that are attractive to me, but I have a hard time with hypocrisy.

Christianity doesnt make alot of sense to me. I mean, like I am sure everyone has said, true christians are great, but how many are really out there? I had a minister tell me that if I walked out her door right then, and got hit by a bus, where would I go? She said I would go to HELL, because I am a FORNICATOR! She was a freak. Most of the christians I have known have been VERY judgemental. I thought they weren't allowed to judge? And, I guess I shouldn't get started with the way I feel about the bible. I don't understand how someone can put so much stock in a book, that has so much hate in it.

Anyway, I am taking lots and lots of hydrocodone right now, so none of this probably made any sense. Heh. Please forgive me! I am interested to know more about magick though....and others opinions of it....

PostPosted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 9:29 am
by Nexxus23
Well, it's been a while, so I figured I'd start this back up again.

Abreeskye, I understand what you're saying, actually. Made sense just fine. ;) If you're interested in learning more about magic in all its forms, I suggest hitting the Occult Forums. There are a lot of long-term practitioners there, and some well-known authors too (like Deborah Lipp!!). Of course, beware the newbie fluff bunnies.
The Chaos Forums have caught me right now- some fascinating discussions, and some absurd ones too.

And I don't spell it "magick." Gardnerian fluff, IMO. :mrgreen:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 9:37 pm
by abreeskye
heheh....after visiting the website you linked in your journal, I will make sure not to either! (the whole magic, magick thing)

I'm glad you posted it....when I took a peek around, they explain alot of what I have wondered about in different areas :)

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2003 12:47 pm
by The Stormstress
Why not... "magique" ... or "majiq"... 'Cauz u all kno that I'm such a spelling nazi! :twisted:

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:44 pm
by Nexxus23
Your welcome, abreeskye! ;)

And I just spell it "magic" usually, the extra k bugs me. Some people spell it "majik" for extra added bonus... :mrgreen:

But a word's just a word, as Stormstress eloquently (in her own way) pointed out. Spelling really doesn't matter. Well, unless you're sigilizing.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2003 12:48 pm
by Nexxus23
Is anyone doing anything for Samhain? I'm going to a bonfire sabbat and dumb supper w/ my hippie peeps. ;) We are all dressing as people who we look up to or have admirable qualities.

I'm not telling who I'm going as, so :P~

PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 5:24 pm
by The_Lady_Aphrodite
I am an independent Pagan but looking to join NSC prolly soon

BTW celticsmith your writing brings tears to my touching.